How to kill Swarm Bhog in Gundrum?

[ivan]

He doesn't take damage from my group.

[森下くるみ]

I guess you mean the Bhoga Swarms?
There are several ways you can easily deal with them - I usually just use Phantasmal Web and my melee chars (that wear a Swarmbane Clasp) make short work of them quickly.

[Yannir]

Try Fire. The swarms are very resistant to physical damage. You can buy more Clasps from the town btw.

[森下くるみ]

Originally posted by Yannir:

Try Fire. The swarms are very resistant to physical damage. You can buy more Clasps from the town btw.

Keep in mind though, that they have Resistance to all energies (except Sonic), Spell Resistance and that their Reflex Save is the highest of their three Saves. So while it's definitely possible to kill them with Elemental damage it is not very resource efficient. Really best to go melee with characters that wear a Clasp - Ulbrig already has one and as mentioned, you can buy more (and also find more if you don't want to buy).

[Yannir]

Originally posted by Kurumi:

Originally posted by Yannir:

Try Fire. The swarms are very resistant to physical damage. You can buy more Clasps from the town btw.

Keep in mind though, that they have Resistance to all energies (except Sonic), Spell Resistance and that their Reflex Save is the highest of their three Saves. So while it's definitely possible to kill them with Elemental damage it is not very resource efficient. Really best to go melee with characters that wear a Clasp - Ulbrig already has one and as mentioned, you can buy more (and also find more if you don't want to buy).

Yeah, I went to this map with 0 Clasps. I sold the one that Ulbrig had. So I was forced to get creative until I bought the vendor dry.

[Winter Wolf]

Yet another gotchya trap for the unwary player. :( Definitely overpowered for the level I got the urgent summons to do this quest. Even with 2 clasps I can see this being a total TPK so as soon as I saw 20 villagers with swarms I reloaded and decided to skip it.

[Chronocide]

Swarms are a weird unit. Sometimes really OP, sometimes really underpowered.

Thrown splash weapons is often a good solution for characters that aren't otherwise able to act. Easy to grab a few extras to spend a few turns where your character would otherwise have nothing to do.

Evil/neutral clerics can also use channel to harm living, which usually works well against swarms.

Originally posted by 森下くるみ:

Keep in mind though, that they have Resistance to all energies (except Sonic), Spell Resistance and that their Reflex Save is the highest of their three Saves. So while it's definitely possible to kill them with Elemental damage it is not very resource efficient. Really best to go melee with characters that wear a Clasp - Ulbrig already has one and as mentioned, you can buy more (and also find more if you don't want to buy).

Does holy water work? Should apply provided they are evil outsiders. Holy water usually bypasses resistances.

[fox5s]

I found a fun trick for them. They have either 1 Str or 1 Dex (don't remember which). If you have anything that can damage that stat, they insta-die.

I'm currently running a summoning/necromancy focused Lich. My first Lich power adds stat damage to all my damaging spells. So, the second a swarm isn't in a body, I can one tap it with acid splash. Hilarious! :D

I'd have been fine without that trick since I had two of the those anti-swarm amulets kicking around the party. There's not a lot of good amulets up to that point other than Nat Armor. And Cam's Barskin outpaces them by a large margin.

[Chronocide]

Swarms....so, one of the weird features with swarms is that their defenses change depending on how large the individual creatures are supposed to be that make up the swarm. And the players are just suppose to "remember this".

Fine or diminutive swarms are immune to weapon damage entirely.

But Tiny swarms are not immune to weapon damage. They just take half damage from Piercing or Slashing Weapons.

Regarding spells, the swarms are innately immune to spells that have a fixed number of targets. So like a cone spell that damages everything in it's area works fine against them, but a spell that affects 1 or 2 creatures won't work.

And then most of the combat maneuvers don't work against them.

And they are immune to critical hits and precision damage (such as sneak attack)

Originally posted by fox5s:

I found a fun trick for them. They have either 1 Str or 1 Dex (don't remember which). If you have anything that can damage that stat, they insta-die.

I'm currently running a summoning/necromancy focused Lich. My first Lich power adds stat damage to all my damaging spells. So, the second a swarm isn't in a body, I can one tap it with acid splash. Hilarious! :D

That is very interesting.

Though, heads up, not all the swarms are that low on stats.

[fox5s]

Originally posted by Chronocide:

Though, heads up, not all the swarms are that low on stats.

True! I did run into one that hat 2 Str. I had to Acid Splash it... twice! :D