Shaman spell book change when?

[Legend Connor]

Came back after long break and now Camelia has a different spell book but can't find this in any of the path notes?

[Cutlass Jack]

Different how?

If you mean new spells, some were added with the last DLC.

[Legend Connor]

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

Different how?

If you mean new spells, some were added with the last DLC.

Greater Magic Weapon is new on Shaman and I've seen Communal Protection Energy is gone
can't tell whats a bug or a feature with this game anymore haha

[Cutlass Jack]

I think they definitely moved stuff around.

I noticed Ember can't select Cure Serious as a third level spell anymore on my new playthrough. But she still has it on my old saves.

[john_boy]

^ I noticed that too - strange, especially with Ember having access to all the previous incarnations of cure wounds. Bug ?

edit - this is the problem with this game, I love it don't get me wrong - sometimes it's hard to work out what's a bug (shouldn't have been there) , a bug (should be there and isn't) or a revision brought in with a patch.

[Cutlass Jack]

Well according to the tooltips on Ember's class chart, Cure Serious got moved to a 4th level spell for her. Cure Crit to Level 5, etc.

So probably not a bug. Not sure why the change though.

[Legend Connor]

If its a change, why a undocumented one? all the other changes seem to be in the updates but this one i see nothing

[Stink Bug]

A while back they did mention in patch notes (may have been the DLC patch) fixing long-standing issue with spell lists not being as they should. Cure Serious Wounds for instance, is supposed to be spell level 4 for the Witch spell list (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/cure-serious-wounds), and Shamans aren't supposed to get the communal version of Protection from Energy (https://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/p/protection-from-energy/). They also added missing already-implemented spells such as the Greater Magic Weapon that someone mentioned, and also some levels of Summon Nature's Ally.

I did notice they did not add the Summon Elemental line of spells though. Those spells don't exist in PnP either, but they're supposed to be options for Summon Monster/Nature's Ally so I would consider their absence an oversight.

[Legend Connor]

that's a very very long standing issue if that's the case... sounds about right with the links you provided thank you. Makes me wonder what kind of tomfoolery is yet to be corrected but is expected with how the dev team getting split more than post war germany.

[Babbles]

Originally posted by Execalibur:

that's a very very long standing issue if that's the case... sounds about right with the links you provided thank you. Makes me wonder what kind of tomfoolery is yet to be corrected but is expected with how the dev team getting split more than post war germany.

Not much - most of these changers are minor - you *really* lost a game because Ember didn't have CSW at level 3? Really?

[mbradtke]

balancing is appreciated, i hope they will continue to fix stuff as it should be, so all classes have a reason to exist, stenghts and weaknesses, no class should totally overpower another in too many or all aspects

[Legend Connor]

Originally posted by Babbles:

Originally posted by Execalibur:

that's a very very long standing issue if that's the case... sounds about right with the links you provided thank you. Makes me wonder what kind of tomfoolery is yet to be corrected but is expected with how the dev team getting split more than post war germany.

Not much - most of these changers are minor - you *really* lost a game because Ember didn't have CSW at level 3? Really?

after owning the game for 2 years and now is changed? inconvenience but a unlisted inconvenience with a seriously buggy game that has had multiple "can't leave area till we hotfix it for u"

[mbradtke]

better late than never, no game is perfect and it takes time to polish games, it is normal, can not exspect devs to release game 100% finished, bug free and polished, that is not realistic, all matter of time, budget, experience and size of project

[Legend Connor]

Originally posted by mbradtke:

better late than never, no game is perfect and it takes time to polish games, it is normal, can not exspect devs to release game 100% finished, bug free and polished, that is not realistic, all matter of time, budget, experience and size of project

this game is 2 years old with 3 other games being worked on, don't defend sloppy