using auto leveling is okay?

[heime2003]

honestly i have no idea of DnD rules and such. i was worried about picking up wrong skills and regretting my decision later. so i turned on auto leveling but in midway of the game, i felt my character was not strong enough to go on. so i ask veteran players if letting the game deciding what skills are picked up is okay to a newbie like me

[fauxpas]

I never trust autoleveling in any game and would rather play a simpler build personally.

[heime2003]

Originally posted by fauxpas:

I never trust autoleveling in any game and would rather play a simpler build personally.

but this game is too complex. i would mess it up easily

[NdNd]

I don't use auto level, not even for my companions. If auto level picks its own suggested feats etc than the build is mediocre at best.
First try to visualise your build before. What is the concept about. What class and what role it would be warrior melee, oracle dps/ support, or sneak attack ray blaster (my favourite ember build) etc. Then you can find guides and builds on internet even if you don't know much about the system with explanation.

[heime2003]

Originally posted by NdNd:

I don't use auto level, not even for my companions. If auto level picks its own suggested feats etc than the build is mediocre at best.
First try to visualise your build before. What is the concept about. What class and what role it would be warrior melee, oracle dps/ support, or sneak attack ray blaster (my favourite ember build) etc. Then you can find guides and builds on internet even if you don't know much about the system with explanation.

yeah ..my fear of being mediocre but mediocre means decent?

[NdNd]

Originally posted by heime2003:

Originally posted by NdNd:

I don't use auto level, not even for my companions. If auto level picks its own suggested feats etc than the build is mediocre at best.
First try to visualise your build before. What is the concept about. What class and what role it would be warrior melee, oracle dps/ support, or sneak attack ray blaster (my favourite ember build) etc. Then you can find guides and builds on internet even if you don't know much about the system with explanation.

yeah ..my fear of being mediocre but mediocre means decent?

There will be very though battles ahead. Boss fights or mini boss fights. You will need careful preparation and tactics and you may need to try a lot of times before you win the fight. Or you can lower difficulty. Either way it won't be easy.

[Lie Chen Zhou]

I used autolevel until chapter 3, it works fine but you will know when it's time to re-spec like
- I don't have enough Dispel magic?
- why I keep missing a certain skill check?

then it's time to re-spec and or make a mercenary companion.

don't worry too much, first time I made a merc I put a useless skill and I only realized it when I don't see it ever proc (and the merc keep dying)
and you can re-spec at Hilor at any time

[heime2003]

Originally posted by Lie Chen Zhou:

I used autolevel until chapter 3, it works fine but you will know when it's time to re-spec like
- I don't have enough Dispel magic?
- why I keep missing a certain skill check?

then it's time to re-spec and or make a mercenary companion.

don't worry too much, first time I made a merc I put a useless skill and I only realized it when I don't see it ever proc (and the merc keep dying)
and you can re-spec at Hilor at any time

respec costs money or i get it done in other ways?

[ayrtep]

You can autolevel in wotr? I have never tried auto-levelling in a game, but why would you play a game like WotR if you are not interested in character development?

Likely you will mess it up, but that is how you learn. Plus you can always respec when you realise your mistakes.

[Yannir]

Originally posted by heime2003:

Originally posted by fauxpas:

I never trust autoleveling in any game and would rather play a simpler build personally.

but this game is too complex. i would mess it up easily

It's better to mess up yourself than letting the game mess up for you. Because when you mess up yourself, you can learn how to not mess up in the future.

[swordfish]

Originally posted by heime2003:

Originally posted by fauxpas:

I never trust autoleveling in any game and would rather play a simpler build personally.

but this game is too complex. i would mess it up easily

Play on story mode and mess up as much as you need. Nothing will go wrong 🤓

[Zuloph]

The auto levelling is good enough for normal and below and serviceable in daring and core if you use good tactics. You'd want it on for the start though so it does the entire build for you. If you turned it on halfway through you'd need to respec your characters so that they have their complete auto level build.

Using it you can watch what decisions the game is making, try to understand some of them and in the future make your own builds. They actually improved some of the auto level builds as some of them were pretty rough. Some still kinda are, but you can determine that with a little bit of reading.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by heime2003:

honestly i have no idea of DnD rules and such. i was worried about picking up wrong skills and regretting my decision later. so i turned on auto leveling but in midway of the game, i felt my character was not strong enough to go on. so i ask veteran players if letting the game deciding what skills are picked up is okay to a newbie like me

Autoleveling depends a lot on your difficulty. If you are on Core, it doesn't matter. The higher you go the more you need to minmax.

The problem in the middle part of the game is that you are thrown into Act 3 and have no way of knowing which are the low level areas. Which can result in you stumbling into areas that assume you would go there with 5-6 more levels under your belt.

It is something you will notice towards the end of Act 3, when you have done the "interesting stuff" and then go back to do some of the less important things and suddenly realize you are super over leveled for the enemies appearing. While at the same time in the beginning of Act 3, when you just had taken Drezen, it felt like there was this huge Difficulty spike.

Similar thing happens in Act 4... where your kinda supposed to explore the city without doing quests and murdering the random people in the city for exp... and then slowly entering the questing stage... as opposed to try and force your way into some of the places.

First time i played Act 4 i beat up the gate guards, which was tough enough, and then made my way to the Palace only to be completely trounced by the Palace Guards, who had AC values i would only hit on a roll of 20. And sure, you can win that fight with enough understanding of the mechanics of the game, using touch spells and such...

Second time around i approached it differently and never really felt a difficulty spike.


Another "problem" is that end of Act 3, early Act 4.. you need to have learned how Buffing works. Which conditions to give enemies to lower their ridicilous AC and what to do when someone has an obscene AC like some of the boss encounters have. Auto-leveling or not doesn't change much in that regard.

[fauxpas]

Originally posted by heime2003:

Originally posted by fauxpas:

I never trust autoleveling in any game and would rather play a simpler build personally.

but this game is too complex. i would mess it up easily

That's how you learn ... besides auto leveling isn't going to be any better.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by heime2003:

respec costs money or i get it done in other ways?

The first few respecs are free. You get like 4 or so free respecs, then it starts to cost 10k gold.

If you don't respec every character every level you shouldn't need to worry about it.

Just make a few more save files instead. Make a save before you respec... respec, go test it in an encounter or two and if you feel like it doesn't work... reload your save from before the respec and do something else.

[Alt]

It all depends on what difficulty you play. On lower difficulties it will be completely fine to autolevel. But my personal advice to you. Learn how system works. Watch some videos, read up. It will be more fun for you when you actually know what you are doing. Building your own character, playing it. Is pretty much a third of the fun.