Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Agron™ Aug 3, 2023 @ 12:47pm
What is the REAL normal difficulty??
I prefer to play games at normal (me or enemy have no advatage over other), sometimes on harder diff, to push me to use my brain more and use everything game offers, but it's different from % chance games or as it seems 'roll' games.

I enjoy this game a lot, like more than I expected. from story to partly combat.
But those rolls. they are terrible, like I played on hardes, which is not true and I checked more than 2 times.

What setting in diff menu changes roll function??? I had enough under 10 rolls with +10 bonus and to miss with 'true strike', when all you need is roll 2. Enemy to roll 17 3/4 of all time.

Ironically my Smilodon is tankiest memember of groupe, with light armor and agressor class focused more on dmg, than my paladin with enchanted shield and heavy enchanted armor

I wanted to post screenshot of my diff settings, but I don't know how to add picture to discussion.
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.//slayer Aug 3, 2023 @ 1:02pm 
What setting in diff menu changes roll function???

The game does not fudge your rolls - that's just a normal behaviour and a negative confirmation bias. You tend to notice and remember bad results, such as hitting 4 critical misses in a single encounter, but forget equally good results, such as several crits in a row. Both things happen equally.

Ironically my Smilodon is tankiest memember of groupe, with light armor and agressor class focused more on dmg, than my paladin with enchanted shield and heavy enchanted armor

Yep, animal companions are very strong throughout the game. Many people use a Leopard as the main tank on Unfair, just because of how good it is.

As for your question, probably Core? It's supposed to be as close to the tabletop experience as possible. Just keep lowering it until you find a spot that you're comfortable with.
Soul Aug 3, 2023 @ 1:50pm 
the default normal difficulty is the normal difficulty.... based off of how they did surveys in the past seems to confirm this when asking if they prefer normal or higher difficulty or normal or lower difficulties...
Ashling Aug 3, 2023 @ 3:14pm 
The difficulty which gives no advantages/disadvantages to npcs would be a custom difficulty as what's an advantage or disadvantage depends from player to player. There's nothing stopping you from going into the difficulty sliders and turning on/off whatever you do or don't like
Last edited by Ashling; Aug 3, 2023 @ 3:15pm
Silyon Aug 3, 2023 @ 3:28pm 
Normal is the intended difficulty, Core for people experienced with the Pathfinder system and anything higher than that for masochists. Personally, I never play above normal dispute being reasonably well-versed in Pathfinder specifically because of how easily a series of sub-par rolls can turn into a party wipe, especially in Act 4 onwards. A lot of people will lie through their teeth and claim the roller is fine, but most everyone's also got numerous examples of entire combat encounters rolling nothing but sub-5's while the enemy's critting left, right, and center. Doesn't matter what difficulty you're playing on, that ♥♥♥♥ kills you.

Aside from that, you've got the usual CRPG difficulty of dealing with a "Killer" GM that's happy to throw encounters and skill checks your way you have no possible way of passing, and the fridge logic of hitting Game Over if your MC goes down even if you've got raise dead scrolls and spellcasters with it. Game can be hard enough without needing to add on the inflated enemy stats from Brutal or Unfair.
Mravenrocks Aug 3, 2023 @ 3:35pm 
Only conspiracy theories still believe there's an issue with the dice roller. They don't know how math works in real life and how you rolling a 20 five times in a row is as likely as rolling a 10 five times in a row or a 1 five times in a row.

They are used to fugged dice rollers that try to not let you roll the same number many times in a row.
swordfish Aug 3, 2023 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by AgronCZ™:
I prefer to play games at normal (me or enemy have no advatage over other), sometimes on harder diff, to push me to use my brain more and use everything game offers, but it's different from % chance games or as it seems 'roll' games.

I enjoy this game a lot, like more than I expected. from story to partly combat.
But those rolls. they are terrible, like I played on hardes, which is not true and I checked more than 2 times.

What setting in diff menu changes roll function??? I had enough under 10 rolls with +10 bonus and to miss with 'true strike', when all you need is roll 2. Enemy to roll 17 3/4 of all time.

Ironically my Smilodon is tankiest memember of groupe, with light armor and agressor class focused more on dmg, than my paladin with enchanted shield and heavy enchanted armor

I wanted to post screenshot of my diff settings, but I don't know how to add picture to discussion.
From you what you typed, normal difficulty would be hard for you, I suggest one difficulty down.
Normal will be difficult for you as this is your first gameplay and you are not satisfied about the dice rolls
dataseer21 Aug 3, 2023 @ 4:36pm 
Originally posted by Silyon:
Normal is the intended difficulty, Core for people experienced with the Pathfinder system and anything higher than that for masochists. Personally, I never play above normal dispute being reasonably well-versed in Pathfinder specifically because of how easily a series of sub-par rolls can turn into a party wipe, especially in Act 4 onwards. A lot of people will lie through their teeth and claim the roller is fine, but most everyone's also got numerous examples of entire combat encounters rolling nothing but sub-5's while the enemy's critting left, right, and center. Doesn't matter what difficulty you're playing on, that ♥♥♥♥ kills you.

Aside from that, you've got the usual CRPG difficulty of dealing with a "Killer" GM that's happy to throw encounters and skill checks your way you have no possible way of passing, and the fridge logic of hitting Game Over if your MC goes down even if you've got raise dead scrolls and spellcasters with it. Game can be hard enough without needing to add on the inflated enemy stats from Brutal or Unfair.

I too don't believe that the rng is fair to be honest(in this game or lots of others.). That is why I optimize so that if I turn it to normal I can have a good time. I also don't like reloading 100 times for a boss fight. I heard that is normal with a lot of gamers for difficult games. That is why I don't play muscle memory games.
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Agron™ Aug 4, 2023 @ 3:20am 
Thank you everyone for response.

Now that I checked settings again. Is it possilbe that 'Enemy stat adjustmentt' affect all rolls itself? I thought it only affect bonuses they get. but from slight frustration and looking for core problem, I begin to thing just how much stronger they are at 'None' setting.

About rolls. I play DnD irl and I had pretty bad rolls myself, but it depend highly on what technique I roll dices, and if I have bad ones with one specific technique, I can change that and it's in my power, so I would not whine that much, but in digital game, we are at mercy of algorithm and it's more frustrating :D
Mravenrocks Aug 4, 2023 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by AgronCZ™:
Thank you everyone for response.

Now that I checked settings again. Is it possilbe that 'Enemy stat adjustmentt' affect all rolls itself? I thought it only affect bonuses they get. but from slight frustration and looking for core problem, I begin to thing just how much stronger they are at 'None' setting.

About rolls. I play DnD irl and I had pretty bad rolls myself, but it depend highly on what technique I roll dices, and if I have bad ones with one specific technique, I can change that and it's in my power, so I would not whine that much, but in digital game, we are at mercy of algorithm and it's more frustrating :D

There are no setting that affect dice rolls since the dice roller is 100% random and not fugged like in games where they don't let you roll the same number multiple times in a row.

What Enemy stat adjustment does is give or take away DC bonuses for enemies and their AC so it "changes" rolls in that sense.
pete3great Aug 4, 2023 @ 11:02am 
I can get why people are paranoid about dice rolls as the rolls in Kingmaker were seeded. As far as anyone can tell, they're not in WotR. But stat block inflation on WotR is very real, which is why you can't seem to hit things you should.
Last edited by pete3great; Aug 4, 2023 @ 11:03am
Mooselager Aug 4, 2023 @ 2:22pm 
It comes down to whether your character is futa or not
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