How do I pickpocket NPCs?

[Stellar]

I am playing a thief, just got out of the prologue and to the first inn. How do I pickpocket? I go in to stealth but don't get any option to pickpocket all these NPCs.

[Soul]

ummm.... pretty sure thats not an option in this game.... but you can do things with trickery like in Act 1 take keys from a certain old man to gain access to other rooms if you wanted....

but I think doing actual pickpocketing in this game would have been odd to handle story wise at least.... I mean if you play the story to Act 2 at least you'd know a bit of what I mean.... I mean.... how would running around pickpocketing the people your leading make sense story wise?.... especially if you got caught?....

[Yannir]

There is no pickpocketing in Pathfinder games. You also can't steal from traders. It's just not an option.

[Yannir]

Funny how you play a game for over 400 hours and only then realize something you've had in every CRPG ever is just missing from this game because someone asks about it in a forum post. And you didn't even miss it.

[Soul]

Originally posted by Yannir:

Funny how you play a game for over 400 hours and only then realize something you've had in every CRPG ever is just missing from this game because someone asks about it in a forum post. And you didn't even miss it.

yeah.... but with how this game starts out its like your too distracted to be running around trying to pickpocket.... starting in prologue everything either wants to kill you... or the friendly NPC's your around are just too pitiful to even think about stealing from..... then reaching the inn your given a kind of a time limit that is ticking down that your gonna be under attack and have to defend that location soon..... why would you wanna pickpocket the ppl that are gonna help you defend the tavern?.... also the thieflings who ARE thieves are actually running away from it all... actual thieving guilds are running for the hills instead of staying and looting.... plus design of the tavern is so cramped you'd be unable to pickpocket without someones eyes on you.... and you also have a Woljif locked in the basement cause he was caught thieving.... so all this kinda encourages the player to not even think about it and focus on prepping for the fight and running errands around the map ASAP...

besides.... I usually play a class with high charisma and persuasion.... and with how Gwerm is so rude... I have no issue with using it to increase his payment to 2 thousand both times he asks me for help.... lol...

[Yannir]

Originally posted by Soul:

Originally posted by Yannir:

Funny how you play a game for over 400 hours and only then realize something you've had in every CRPG ever is just missing from this game because someone asks about it in a forum post. And you didn't even miss it.

yeah.... but with how this game starts out its like your too distracted to be running around trying to pickpocket.... starting in prologue everything either wants to kill you... or the friendly NPC's your around are just too pitiful to even think about stealing from..... then reaching the inn your given a kind of a time limit that is ticking down that your gonna be under attack and have to defend that location soon..... why would you wanna pickpocket the ppl that are gonna help you defend the tavern?.... also the thieflings who ARE thieves are actually running away from it all... actual thieving guilds are running for the hills instead of staying and looting.... plus design of the tavern is so cramped you'd be unable to pickpocket without someones eyes on you.... and you also have a Woljif locked in the basement cause he was caught thieving.... so all this kinda encourages the player to not even think about it and focus on prepping for the fight and running errands around the map ASAP...

besides.... I usually play a class with high charisma and persuasion.... and with how Gwerm is so rude... I have no issue with using it to increase his payment to 2 thousand both times he asks me for help.... lol...

This game, yeah, I get your point. But there's Kingmaker too.

[Amaterasu]

Originally posted by Yannir:

There is no pickpocketing in Pathfinder games. You also can't steal from traders. It's just not an option.

That would have been a good opportunity.

Just thinking about BG2, where you could steal a valuable item and sell it at the blackmarket merchant back and forth. Unlimited money right from the get go.

[Realm Walker]

In Pathfinder WOTR you get more than enough money, especially after the first half of the game.

[Schlumpsha]

Reverse pickpocket mechanics was a missed opportunity imho. Imagine placing bombs into someone's pocket for instance. That would be one way to make Underground Chemist more viable in WotR. Bonus points if there were mythic abilities to add some *omph!* to them alchemical weaponry.

[Stellar]

are you *@#&@ serious that i cannot pickpocket? WTF? That's why I play thieves in RPGs, I wanna pickpocket! This is absolutely @*&#&

[Stellar]

So now I have this useless thief character that took me 9 hours of gameplay to get out of the prologue with. And she's completely useless. If I can't pickpocket I would have played a wizard. This is nuts.

[Schlumpsha]

Pickpocketing as an actual mechanic doesn't exist, yes. What we have are a selected (very) few instances of pickpocket dialogue options. Those usually require certain ranks in the
Mobility skill.

Still nothing compared to thieving around in classic Baldur's Gate trilogy or Black Geyser tho.

[Super Meki]

Originally posted by Stellar:

are you *@#&@ serious that i cannot pickpocket? WTF? That's why I play thieves in RPGs, I wanna pickpocket! This is absolutely @*&#&

LOL i feel u bruh.. thats why i thinkin 2-3 times buyin this game. but i guess imma buy it now bcoz of sales

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by Stellar:

So now I have this useless thief character that took me 9 hours of gameplay to get out of the prologue with. And she's completely useless. If I can't pickpocket I would have played a wizard. This is nuts.

Not at all useless. There's a literal ton of traps and locked boxes in the game.
But honestly anyone can pick up the Thieving skill in the game with a little careful background planning.

What Rogues really bring to the table is their massive sneak attack damage (which doesn't require actual sneaking, while we're comparing it to other RPGs.) and selection of interesting feats.

And you could always pick up some wizard levels on your rogue too and have the best of both worlds. Or go Eldrich Scoundrel. So many options.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Stellar:

So now I have this useless thief character that took me 9 hours of gameplay to get out of the prologue with. And she's completely useless. If I can't pickpocket I would have played a wizard. This is nuts.

I mean...I guess they are useless if you hate the massive damage they bring by stealth, they pick locks, disable traps, have usually the best trained skills for checks, can scout, and a plethora of things they bring to combat besides their sneak attack...

Setting aside them being useless if you remove all those factors, loot isn't exactly lacking by any means. like until you really find yourself with some bag of holdings, you have problems carrying around quite a bit of the excessive loot in the first place...

[jsaving]

Originally posted by Amaterasu:

Just thinking about BG2, where you could steal a valuable item and sell it at the blackmarket merchant back and forth. Unlimited money right from the get go.

That is the precise reason why Owlcat decided not to have pickpocketing in Kingmaker/Wrath, though people may or may not like the decision.