i dont understand anything aboutr Damage in this game.

[BlackViper]

its so confusing to the point i stoped playing after 3 hours... "oh this skill does 2d8" oooh this weapon does 5d2" like wtf does that mean. i dont know what im doing in this game.

[ajfusch]

D is for Dice. Dice in D&D and related games come in several different forms. D4, D6, D8, D10, D12 and D20.
The D20 is for rolling if you hit and skillchecks, the others for damage and other things.

So 2d8 ist 2 8-sided dice rolled. That means it's between 2 and 16 damage - plus any modifiers you might have.

And yes, virtual dice are rolled in the background - there is no fixed damage, except for a handful of spells/effects afaik.

I'm pretty sure it gets explained somewhere ingame ... anyway, there's the wiki for the game as well as tons of websites dedicated to the original rules.

[hilburnashua]

This game is based on the Pathfinder tabletop game. So 2d8 damage means you would roll 2 eight sided dice and add the damage together. So it has a damage range of 2 -16.

And this is a massively complex game, if you plan on continuing playing start off at the minimum difficulty level until you have a really strong understanding of the system because not only is the game complex, but this version has the power level of opponents ramped up to make them something other then speedbumps with the power boost that Mythic rules enables.

[BlackViper]

Originally posted by ajfusch:

D is for Dice. Dice in D&D and related games come in several different forms. D4, D6, D8, D10, D12 and D20.
The D20 is for rolling if you hit and skillchecks, the others for damage and other things.

So 2d8 ist 2 8-sided dice rolled. That means it's between 2 and 16 damage - plus any modifiers you might have.

And yes, virtual dice are rolled in the background - there is no fixed damage, except for a handful of spells/effects afaik.

I'm pretty sure it gets explained somewhere ingame ... anyway, there's the wiki for the game as well as tons of websites dedicated to the original rules.

so D2 can never be less then 2? and the 8 means i can get 2 8s, or inbetween it?

[Jiroa]

Originally posted by BlackViper:

Originally posted by ajfusch:

D is for Dice. Dice in D&D and related games come in several different forms. D4, D6, D8, D10, D12 and D20.
The D20 is for rolling if you hit and skillchecks, the others for damage and other things.

So 2d8 ist 2 8-sided dice rolled. That means it's between 2 and 16 damage - plus any modifiers you might have.

And yes, virtual dice are rolled in the background - there is no fixed damage, except for a handful of spells/effects afaik.

I'm pretty sure it gets explained somewhere ingame ... anyway, there's the wiki for the game as well as tons of websites dedicated to the original rules.

so D2 can never be less then 2? and the 8 means i can get 2 8s, or inbetween it?

D8 would be 1-8 damage so 2D8 is 2-16 and 3d8 would be 3-24 ect.

[Drake]

The formula is xDy => x-(x*y).

So 2d8 => 2-(2*8) = 2-16.

You can also see it as 2d8 = 2* (1d8), so 1d8 + 1d8.

If you want to add modifier it then looks like this :

xDy + z => (x+z) - [(x*y)+z]

So 2d8 + 1 = 2+1 - [(2*8)+1) = 3 - 17

Edit : changed a calculation error

[elbentzo]

Originally posted by Drake:

The formula is xDy => x-(x*y).

So 2d8 => 2-(2*8) = 2-16.

You can also see it as 2d8 = 2* (1d8), so 1d8 + 1d8.

If you want to add modifier it then looks like this :

xDy + z => (x+z) - [(x*y)+z]

So 2d8 + 1 = 2+1 - [(2*8)+1) = 3 - 9 [/quote]

The last one should be 3 - 17. I'm not trying to be pedantic, just commenting because if someone is reading this in order to learn this for the first time, a simple typo can be very confusing.

[ajfusch]

D2 is a rare thing btw, since there are no actual 2-sided dice irl.
It's always any other die, where the lower half of numbers counts as 1 and the upper half as 2. I don't think it's ever used for multiple die, only as a single D2 for VERY low damage, like a rat's bite or something.
As has been said in detail the number before the D is the number of dice, the number behind the type of die.

[BlackViper]

Originally posted by ajfusch:

D2 is a rare thing btw, since there are no actual 2-sided dice irl.
It's always any other die, where the lower half of numbers counts as 1 and the upper half as 2. I don't think it's ever used for multiple die, only as a single D2 for VERY low damage, like a rat's bite or something.
As has been said in detail the number before the D is the number of dice, the number behind the type of die.

so if "just example" 3d12 that means there is 3 dies , that range from 1 to 12.
and i can get any number between that on all 3 dice, and then the game combines them to the actuall number wich i get in dmg?

[ajfusch]

Right.
3D12 would be 3 12-sided dice. So: 3-36 damage.

[krtalic]

1d6 = 1 dice of 6 sides means 1-6
1d17 = 1 dice of 17 sides means 1-17

4d20 half on reflex save means 4 dices of 20 sides -> 4-80 and halved if the enemy has a successful reflex save

1d10 per caster level means 1 dice with 10 sides per caster level so 1-10 for each caster level

[BlackViper]

Originally posted by krtalic:

1d6 = 1 dice of 6 sides means 1-6
1d17 = 1 dice of 17 sides means 1-17

4d20 half on reflex save means 4 dices of 20 sides -> 4-80 and halved if the enemy has a successful reflex save

1d10 per caster level means 1 dice with 10 sides per caster level so 1-10 for each caster level

what does it mean when a + is in there then ?. like 1d+3 something.

[ajfusch]

Just what it says. You add the number behind the + to what you rolled.
D17 btw is a strange example, since there are no D17. I listed all the avaliable dice in my first post. Minus the % die, I forgot that.

[Jan]

+3 would mean a +3 damage bonus is added to the dice roll. You also see +x after items. That is an attack bonus, basically a bonus to hit chance.

[galagraphia]

Hey, you might want to try playing with a tutorial. It explains a lot of the basic mechanics, and also gives some contextual hints. For example, when your mage (Nenio or Woljif) or a cleric (Sosiel) forget to memorize spells before rest. Or when you get a debuff, the hint will tell you how to remove it. Pathfinder may take some time getting used to if you've never played tabletop games similar to PF or d&d. But after you beat the first chapter, you probably will figure out most of it :)