using vanish in the middle of combat

[TwoTonTuna]

how does invisibility work in the middle in the combat? will the enemy AI ignore the invisible character and engage another target instead?

[Immortal Reaver]

Vanish and Invisibility will give +20 bonus to Stealth check.
So it depends if they make Perception check againts your Stealth check.
Or if they have any of these - True Seeing, Echolocation, Tremorsense, Blindsense, Thoughtsense. (early on nobody will not have it)
True Seeing will not counter mundane stealth. And it will counter the +20 bonus of invisibility. Mind Blank counters True Seeing.

[TwoTonTuna]

Originally posted by Immortal Reaver:

Vanish and Invisibility will give +20 bonus to Stealth check.
So it depends if they make Perception check againts your Stealth check.
Or if they have any of these - True Seeing, Echolocation, Tremorsense, Blindsense, Thoughtsense. (early on nobody will not have it)
True Seeing will not counter mundane stealth. And it will counter the +20 bonus of invisibility. Mind Blank counters True Seeing.

What exactly happens when enemies fail a stealth check in the middle of combat?

[darkholyPL]

Sadly, in Wrath, Stealth and Invisibility (or rather 'invisibility' since it's not a ture one here...) don't work more often than not. Enemies often have very high Perception and/or True Seeing or See Invis. ect. So what ends up happening is that enemies just ignore it, and act as if you were visible.
Mind Blank might help against Ture Seeing ect. but it will not help with just a raw perception check, which, if you play on Core or above, the enemies will most likely pass.
I've check it a few times, taking my best Stealth char at the time (Woljif) and casting Ivis. on him to try and be all sneaky and the enemies just detected him right away anyway.
I gave up on trying it after that.
Maybe someone else had more luck with it, than me. Might be good for a caster, that stands way in the back, but not for a front liner.

[TwoTonTuna]

Originally posted by darkholyPL:

Sadly, in Wrath, Stealth and Invisibility (or rather 'invisibility' since it's not a ture one here...) don't work more often than not. Enemies often have very high Perception and/or True Seeing or See Invis. ect. So what ends up happening is that enemies just ignore it, and act as if you were visible.
Mind Blank might help against Ture Seeing ect. but it will not help with just a raw perception check, which, if you play on Core or above, the enemies will most likely pass.
I've check it a few times, taking my best Stealth char at the time (Woljif) and casting Ivis. on him to try and be all sneaky and the enemies just detected him right away anyway.
I gave up on trying it after that.
Maybe someone else had more luck with it, than me. Might be good for a caster, that stands way in the back, but not for a front liner.

Oof. Thanks for the heads-up; guess I'll re-roll my toon while i'm still in chapter 1

[Immortal Reaver]

Originally posted by Kodesh:

What exactly happens when enemies fail a stealth check in the middle of combat?

Unless it is in dialoge nobody fails stealth check.
Either you pass Perception+d20 and enemy is revealed. Or enemy stays hidden.