Can't kill the succubus in Tirabade Residence

[krwr12]

I'm playing on hard. I'm lvl 5. I can't even hit it. Glitterdust and slumber don't work even with evil eye.

[Mr Fred]

Do you REALLY need a thread for this? If you cant beat a chapter 1 monster on hard idk MAYBE you shouldnt play on hard...

[krwr12]

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

Do you REALLY need a thread for this? If you cant beat a chapter 1 monster on hard idk MAYBE you shouldnt play on hard...

I have all the buffs and stats, I can't penetrate his AC and spell resistance. Can I return after the battle for Kenabres with higher level? And don't be so contemptuous.

[Agony_Aunt]

OP - really, there is no shame in lower the difficulty. Above core difficulty the devs are expecting you to cheese things.

[Yow!]

Originally posted by krwr12:

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

Do you REALLY need a thread for this? If you cant beat a chapter 1 monster on hard idk MAYBE you shouldnt play on hard...

I have all the buffs and stats, I can't penetrate his AC and spell resistance. Can I return after the battle for Kenabres with higher level? And don't be so contemptuous.

You can cast some dispels on her, to remove shield and mage armor, at least that's how i did it. I am pretty sure you are not allowed to return after the attack on grey keep, it closes the chapter.

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

Do you REALLY need a thread for this? If you cant beat a chapter 1 monster on hard idk MAYBE you shouldnt play on hard...

As an educational method, violence has proven to be unreliable, you should at least give a proper answer if you are going through all the trouble to answer this.

[krwr12]

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

OP - really, there is no shame in lower the difficulty. Above core difficulty the devs are expecting you to cheese things.

I'm aware of that. I cheese. And I want to play on hard.

[krwr12]

Originally posted by Yow!:

Originally posted by krwr12:

I have all the buffs and stats, I can't penetrate his AC and spell resistance. Can I return after the battle for Kenabres with higher level? And don't be so contemptuous.

You can cast some dispels on her, to remove shield and mage armor, at least that's how i did it. I am pretty sure you are not allowed to return after the attack on grey keep, it closes the chapter.

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

Do you REALLY need a thread for this? If you cant beat a chapter 1 monster on hard idk MAYBE you shouldnt play on hard...

As an educational method, violence has proven to be unreliable, you should at least give a proper answer if you are going through all the trouble to answer this.

I've already killed her. The problem was concealment. Also, my spell DC was 17 and their saves were not very high. I failed many times in a row to penetrate their resistance though.

[Battler]

The difficulty curve in the game leaves much to be desired. On Hard, only first chapter is really Hard (Especially if you want to clear the entire map before tavern attack. You will use all you have). In chp2, even without multiclasses, Hard feels like Core. Chp 3 - daring. Chp 4 - normal. And chp 5 you oneshot Deskari.

[krwr12]

Originally posted by Battler:

The difficulty curve in the game leaves much to be desired. On Hard, only first chapter is really Hard (Especially if you want to clear the entire map before tavern attack. You will use all you have). In chp2, even without multiclasses, Hard feels like Core. Chp 3 - daring. Chp 4 - normal. And chp 5 you oneshot Deskari.

Well it's not exactly hard, it's just in early game you have only 1 attack, a few powerful control spells, some useful feats. Not much utility compared to the mid and late game.

[Battler]

Originally posted by krwr12:

Well it's not exactly hard, it's just in early game you have only 1 attack, a few powerful control spells, some useful feats. Not much utility compared to the mid and late game.

Well, kind of. As Regill said, its not goodness that weak, its you (well, i dont know how it was in English.) But this does not negate the fact that hard works only while in chp1

[Keijo]

The difference between core and hard seems to be really small, it does say the enemies are stronger but I dont know if they have more ac, or well they already have enough ac on core so it probably doesnt matter.

On normal it says you take 20% less damage, but and enemies are weaker but how does it affect their stats?

[Black Hammer]

Generally, between Normal and Core, I've noticed a bonus between 2 and 4 to enemy stats. Which is how you get those Strength 23 human NPCs running around Kenabres, flexing on demigods.

Chapter 1 suffers tremendously from the Demon Problem, where everything has four billion layers of protection.

Defensive spells? Check. (That Succubus comes with mage armor and shield pre-cast on itself, even though shield only lasts a few minutes, so nobody should have it pre-cast.) Not to mention invisibility.
Then they have spell resistance, which is a janky band-aid mechanic that should never have existed.
Resistance to nearly every element? Yep.

Due to the tight level bounding, you're likely to only have one or no dispel magics available at this point, and it can easily bounce off the SR. So you can roll up with the necessary precautions, then get rolled because your Dispels rolled badly. Then the enemy crits you twice in a round because they don't roll under a 15.

I just watched this Vrock roll five attacks (including a confirm) where it needed at least a 15 to hit Seelah. Landed every attack. It's rolled at least four natural 20s this fight.

Everyone will tell you the AI doesn't cheat its rolls, but hot damn, you cannot fish for getting any status spell to stick early on. It's just a boring waiting game of slapping down basic attacks through fat resistance to everything and reloading until the AI doesn't crit down your AC 30 tanks in two rounds.