Sosiel - What is he good at?

[Huge Beard Guy]

Every companion has a - for lack of a better way of describing - job and purpose in and out of combat. Every companion apart from Sosiel so I'm wondering if I'm missing something or if he's just really meh.

At the moment he's manly using Conjuration spells as a weak healer, a couple of Necromancy spells for sometimes good sometimes forgettable ranged attacks and welding a shield to somewhat sponge damage <<< this is after a respec as I didn't find him doing very much of anything going the cliché standard Cleric route.

What is the general gist of how he supposed to be used?

[MjKorz]

Domains, that's why Sosiel is the second most useful companion in the game (right after Nenio, of course).

Law - Touch of Law allows you to set friendly and enemy rolls precisely to 11.

Madness - Vision of Madness allows you to buff your own attack/saves/skills or debuff enemy attack/saves.

Community - Guarded Hearth creates a stationary area in which the entire party gets the Cleric's WIS modifier bonus to both attack and saves.

Good - Touch of Good allows you to buff attack and this stacks with Guarded Hearth buff and the Vision of Madness buff and their sum can easily produce a +30 attack bonus or higher.

Luck - Bit of Luck allows your spellcasters to roll spell penetration checks twice.

Chaos - forces the enemy to make their rolls twice and take the worst result. Mutually exclusive with Law (when used against enemies), but has theoretically strong synergy with Azata via Favorable Magic and Demon via Aspect of Socothbenoth (enemy gets double disadvantage on save rolls).

Animal - allows you to get a pet.

Strength - grants the Cleric Transformation spell as a level 9 spell. Extremely good on Crusader melee builds and elevates them above Oracles who can get full BAB only for up to 10 rounds while the Crusader can make it last 24h.

There are additional less powerful, but still good domains.

Domains are the absolute strongest source of party synergy in the game.

[~ Fabulous ~]

there is nothing he can do that Daeran can't do better

[Huge Beard Guy]

Originally posted by MjKorz:

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Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

there is nothing he can do that Daeran can't do better

Yeah, that's kinda where I'm sitting at the moment. There seems to be nothing he can do that someone else doesn't already do but better.

[Keijo]

You have to take domains with mythic levels, and if you take pet first you have to wait to like mythic 3+ to get something out of him. The domain powers are in abilities, not spells so you might not even know they exist.

[hilburnashua]

I built him to be a armored hulk barbarian with a dip into fighter at lvl 20 for the additional BAB which put him at 16 which made him able to take greater vital strike, which I also needed the fighter level because of the bonus feat to take greater vital strike. He was a solid damage dealer.

[gmwaddington]

With Impossible Domain, Sosiel can take the Community Domain for Guarded Hearth, which is a huge help to hit high AC enemies. Later, Domain Zealot lets him use domain abilities as a swift action. Without Sosiel, you will struggle to hit the toughest enemies on the higher difficulties.

See this video for build ideas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCsFwBmh7PU&t=333s

[revan1229]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

there is nothing he can do that Daeran can't do better

Does Daeran have Domains? Sosiel is absolutely the better support unit.

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by ~ Fabulous ~:

there is nothing he can do that Daeran can't do better

Daeran can't use domains and is utterly useless in comparison. Well, you can make him a Court Poet, but that's a whole different story.

[juzam_djinn_fr]

Aside from domains, what Sosiel brings to the party is really poor, you could do so much better with a mercenary priest, and people mentionning Domains as the main reason to take Sosiel confirm that.

Lann, when builded properly as a sanctified slayer (or sacred huntmaster if you want a pet), can deal massive damage and control ennemies and bosses (incl. playful darkness and other optionnal bosses, dragons, etc) at the same time with 100% chance and can also be your domain provider as a nice little extra.

So i guess, Sosiel is here to be the domain provider for thoses who use Wenduag for RP reason and don't want to use mercs.

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by juzam_djinn_fr:

Aside from domains, what Sosiel brings to the party is really poor, you could do so much better with a mercenary priest, and people mentionning Domains as the main reason to take Sosiel confirm that.

Lann, when builded properly as a sanctified slayer (or sacred huntmaster if you want a pet), can deal massive damage and control ennemies and bosses (incl. playful darkness and other optionnal bosses, dragons, etc) at the same time with 100% chance and can also be your domain provider as a nice little extra.

So i guess, Sosiel is here to be the domain provider for thoses who use Wenduag for RP reason and don't want to use mercs.

Nenio can disable everything in the game far better than Lann.

Lann is most useful as a Mutation Warrior tank or Bones+Flame Shadow Shaman acting as Camellia's replacement for those who leave her in the basement.

[revan1229]

Originally posted by juzam_djinn_fr:

Aside from domains, what Sosiel brings to the party is really poor, you could do so much better with a mercenary priest, and people mentionning Domains as the main reason to take Sosiel confirm that.

Lann, when builded properly as a sanctified slayer (or sacred huntmaster if you want a pet), can deal massive damage and control ennemies and bosses (incl. playful darkness and other optionnal bosses, dragons, etc) at the same time with 100% chance and can also be your domain provider as a nice little extra.

So i guess, Sosiel is here to be the domain provider for thoses who use Wenduag for RP reason and don't want to use mercs.

What Sosiel brings to the table outside of Domains is a standard, divine spellbook up to the 9th level slots, which you want to have covered. Lann SS does not get that. On top of this, Lann's starting Domains aren't that great. Sosiel comes with two of the best ones out of the gate.

[ptirodaktill]

Sosiel is domain master. Pick impossible domain and Domain Zealots for domain powers as swift action. Luck stack with shaman and witch hex, that allow you to reroll any check 3 times per action. Community AB bonus is huge, even worth 2 lvl vivi dip for a little bit of extra juice. Good is good =) Law work as semi trick fate on a character with 11-20 crit range.
Sosiel is light years ahead of Daerun in terms of support. They are not even comparable.

[Raikon]

Depends on your preffered playstyle, and what you need to fill out that playstyle. I personally dont see much of a need for sosiel. I like Lanns stat spread more then sosiel. Lann starts with worshipping Iomadae, which grants the law domain. If I want domains, I like lann better. 3-4 levels of Zen archer, and 16 of whatever I want his domain to be.

As for daeran, he is good at what he specializes in. Sosiel and daeran, while both have channel positive energy, they fufill different roles. Daeran is a much better healer, comparing sosiel to that doesnt do him justice, as that is not really sosiels purpose.

[juzam_djinn_fr]

Originally posted by MjKorz:

Nenio can disable everything in the game far better than Lann.

Lann is most useful as a Mutation Warrior tank or Bones+Flame Shadow Shaman acting as Camellia's replacement for those who leave her in the basement.

I Should have mentionned for highest difficulties like unfair, Nenio is nice but on unfair she'll never get the DC high enough to disable, let say, the red dragon or playful darkness during chapter 3 reliably unlike Lann

[ptirodaktill]

Originally posted by juzam_djinn_fr:

Originally posted by MjKorz:

Nenio can disable everything in the game far better than Lann.

Lann is most useful as a Mutation Warrior tank or Bones+Flame Shadow Shaman acting as Camellia's replacement for those who leave her in the basement.

I Should have mentionned for highest difficulties like unfair, Nenio is nice but on unfair she'll never get the DC high enough to disable, let say, the red dragon or playful darkness during chapter 3 reliably unlike Lann

You are so wrong about Nenio =)