How to destroy locuts swarms?

[SirRantsAlot]

They have 122hp, in this case i am attacked by just round about 10 swarms and fire spells makes extra ordinary 2-5 damage points ... at normal level. How i am supposed to defeat them and when i succed i bet f****** Xanthir Vang will be revived.

[erian]

Use energy type they are not resistant or immune? Like sonic damage or holy.

[HydraLord]

Hi there.

There are several ways, but spell clouds seems the fittest for me. In other words, delay posion communal, several CloudKill cast, and some micro (keep you characters on the move).
Appart from that, area damage spells, weapons incantations, drain abilities or spells; also if you have shapeshifting abilities the shambler works (as he poison with each hit).

Hope this help
Have fun

[SirRantsAlot]

Ursprungligen skrivet av erian:

Use energy type they are not resistant or immune? Like sonic damage or holy.

Electric spells?

[SirRantsAlot]

Ursprungligen skrivet av HydraLord:

Hi there.

There are several ways, but spell clouds seems the fittest for me. In other words, delay posion communal, several CloudKill cast, and some micro (keep you characters on the move).
Appart from that, area damage spells, weapons incantations, drain abilities or spells; also if you have shapeshifting abilities the shambler works (as he poison with each hit).

Hope this help
Have fun

Theoretically it make sense. But the space is limited and including my animals i am talking about 9 individuals and round about 20 enemies. There is no space to place clouds and the swarm has ridicolous 150hp!

[HydraLord]

Delay poison communal will affect all of your characters, in other words you will be protected from its effects. The CloudKill do poison damage and drain constitution, it will not kill them cause of life damage, it will kill them cause you drop their costitution value to 0. Also as constitution value drop, also their total health. Perhaps a haste spell can make you move faster from position to position. Just for the record, it is possible, my first party (a lot of posion dmg) clean the Xanthir room that way. Also as you mentioned animals; monitor lizard and centipedes attacks do drain values (monitor lizar, consitution and centipede dexterity, if i recall it right). There is also a spell that allow your pets to do acid dmg: Acid Maw. I do not remeber that locust resistence but some spells can lower certain types of resistance.

The other thing that come to my mind are animated dead spells. They will not attack (as they do not do damage to that enemy...but they can hold as the draining ability of the swarms does not afffect them)...you may use them to call for their attention as cloudKill or other spell slowly kill them.

In any case good luck
Hope this help

Have fun

[erian]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SirRantsAlot:

Ursprungligen skrivet av erian:

Use energy type they are not resistant or immune? Like sonic damage or holy.

Electric spells?

Most swarms in Wrath are demonic and those are usualy immune to electricity. Safe bet is sonic damage(very few things have resistances for that) and holy( no resists at all,but they are mostly on angel path).Bit worse are cold and acid, but they also work often. But you can take any energy type you want and apply ascendant element mythic ability.It will allow to bypass any resistances of immunities enemies have(thou care with you own party, since it will bypass your resistances as well in aoe spells)
Also direct attack spells dont work on swarms. So you need aoe spells with needed damage type.

[SirRantsAlot]

Ursprungligen skrivet av erian:

Ursprungligen skrivet av SirRantsAlot:

Electric spells?

Most swarms in Wrath are demonic and those are usualy immune to electricity. Safe bet is sonic damage(very few things have resistances for that) and holy( no resists at all,but they are mostly on angel path).Bit worse are cold and acid, but they also work often. But you can take any energy type you want and apply ascendant element mythic ability.It will allow to bypass any resistances of immunities enemies have(thou care with you own party, since it will bypass your resistances as well in aoe spells)
Also direct attack spells dont work on swarms. So you need aoe spells with needed damage type.

WHat is "sonic damage"? I play the game in german. The problem is the space. I mean with AoE Spells i destroy my comrades too. Is there an option/mod to remove swarms?

[SirRantsAlot]

Ursprungligen skrivet av HydraLord:

Delay poison communal will affect all of your characters, in other words you will be protected from its effects. The CloudKill do poison damage and drain constitution, it will not kill them cause of life damage, it will kill them cause you drop their costitution value to 0. Also as constitution value drop, also their total health. Perhaps a haste spell can make you move faster from position to position. Just for the record, it is possible, my first party (a lot of posion dmg) clean the Xanthir room that way. Also as you mentioned animals; monitor lizard and centipedes attacks do drain values (monitor lizar, consitution and centipede dexterity, if i recall it right). There is also a spell that allow your pets to do acid dmg: Acid Maw. I do not remeber that locust resistence but some spells can lower certain types of resistance.

The other thing that come to my mind are animated dead spells. They will not attack (as they do not do damage to that enemy...but they can hold as the draining ability of the swarms does not afffect them)...you may use them to call for their attention as cloudKill or other spell slowly kill them.

In any case good luck
Hope this help

Have fun

And if you dont have "delay poison" available? You have only very little places for spells which makes it impossible to be prepared for everything. And always resting 8 hrs for changing spells is somehow annoying. The game design itself sucks a little bit at this point. To me it seems a little bit they wanted to prolong it without having efforts.

[gmwaddington]

Angel spells handle swarms with ease: Storm of Justice simply destroys them.

[Toxic alien]

"Delay poison, communal" is one of the best level 3 spells, Camelia gets it for free, and Daeran/Ember can learn it. And if scrolls can help you a lot, i'm pretty sure, that you have some scrolls of delayed poison stocked

[Max Kojote, M.SC]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SirRantsAlot:

Ursprungligen skrivet av erian:

Most swarms in Wrath are demonic and those are usualy immune to electricity. Safe bet is sonic damage(very few things have resistances for that) and holy( no resists at all,but they are mostly on angel path).Bit worse are cold and acid, but they also work often. But you can take any energy type you want and apply ascendant element mythic ability.It will allow to bypass any resistances of immunities enemies have(thou care with you own party, since it will bypass your resistances as well in aoe spells)
Also direct attack spells dont work on swarms. So you need aoe spells with needed damage type.

WHat is "sonic damage"? I play the game in german. The problem is the space. I mean with AoE Spells i destroy my comrades too. Is there an option/mod to remove swarms?

Probably listed as Gehörschäden or Schall Schaden. For example, Sound Burst from the Cleric or Oracle.

For AoE spells consider looking into the Selective Spell metamagic to protect your allies as well.

Swarms are a part of the game and the system so there's no option to remove it. All else failing, you could make use of Toybox to cheat those encounters.

[Mr Fred]

Try a grenadier alchemist merc if you really hate those. Bombs do wonders on swarm.

[SirRantsAlot]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mr Fred:

Try a grenadier alchemist merc if you really hate those. Bombs do wonders on swarm.

And when i take him with me for the time being no more swarms i bet.

[Mr Fred]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SirRantsAlot:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Mr Fred:

Try a grenadier alchemist merc if you really hate those. Bombs do wonders on swarm.

And when i take him with me for the time being no more swarms i bet.

Still a very good merc that let you access even more buffs that arent normally castable on others like shield and blur with the infusion discovery. Easy to lvl up too its pretty much point blank shot, precise shot and then extra bombs for all the other feats lol.

[erian]

Ursprungligen skrivet av SirRantsAlot:

Ursprungligen skrivet av erian:

Most swarms in Wrath are demonic and those are usualy immune to electricity. Safe bet is sonic damage(very few things have resistances for that) and holy( no resists at all,but they are mostly on angel path).Bit worse are cold and acid, but they also work often. But you can take any energy type you want and apply ascendant element mythic ability.It will allow to bypass any resistances of immunities enemies have(thou care with you own party, since it will bypass your resistances as well in aoe spells)
Also direct attack spells dont work on swarms. So you need aoe spells with needed damage type.

WHat is "sonic damage"? I play the game in german. The problem is the space. I mean with AoE Spells i destroy my comrades too. Is there an option/mod to remove swarms?

Dont know how it spelled in German, but any spell that mention sound in its description? Most of the sound spells are in bard and wizard/sorcerer spellbooks( they usually have yellowish icon), thou clerics/oracles also have few of them.
As for the party damage,position your casters in back line, summon some help so swarms target them for some time, then drop aoe on your frontline and summons. Your frontline should have more than enough hp to tank several aoe spells, even without resist element. Plus most of the time you can target your aoe to avoid some of the party members.