Expanded Arsenal (Magic School ) - Understanding

[SteveTheMad]

I have:

Spell Focus Evocation
Greater Spell Focus Evocation
Mythic - School Mastery Evocation

If I understand Expanded Arsenal right - If i took EX AR Conjuration, I would not need to take the above 3 in Conjunction as all 3 Evocations would now also apply to Conjuration?

Just out of curiosity, Would taking Spell focus Conjuration after already using Expanded Arsenal for it, buff Conjuration spells more? or just a waste of Feat/Abilty slot?

Thanks

[forkofspite]

Originally posted by SteveTheMad:

If I understand Expanded Arsenal right - If i took EX AR Conjuration, I would not need to take the above 3 in Conjunction as all 3 Evocations would now also apply to Conjuration?

Correct.

In addition, spell focus in other schools would also apply to conjuration. At least, that's how it presently works (and there's no particular reason to think it will change, but who knows?)

Originally posted by SteveTheMad:

Just out of curiosity, Would taking Spell focus Conjuration after already using Expanded Arsenal for it, buff Conjuration spells more? or just a waste of Feat/Abilty slot?

Not only would it be a waste, but I think it would actually make your conjuration DCs worse by removing the effect of greater spell focus (evocation) and mythic school mastery (evocation). It also remove spell focus (evocation), but you get that back by your spell focus (conjuration).

Suggestion:
If you have the Inevitable Excess DLC, you might want to actually check. I'm not 100% certain about my second response about making your conjuration spell DCs worse.

[SteveTheMad]

@forkofspite THanks

[Drake]

Yes if you pick spell focus it will disable expended arsenal for that school. So besically you want to pick expended arsenal on schools you will actually use, and pick all the spell focus/specialization feats for the schools you don't.

That said I think I recall they nerfed the double dipping in a recent patch.

[forkofspite]

Originally posted by Drake:

That said I think I recall they nerfed the double dipping in a recent patch.

Most recently, I've checked in the Enhanced Edition while running DLC #3 in rogue-like mode. However, that was several patches ago - either 2.0.2c or 2.0.3i.