how do i scribe dispel magic scrolls?

[snuggleform]

I've read posts that say you can, and some say you can't. For example here's one that says you can scribe greater dispel scrolls

https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder_Kingmaker/comments/vqcq7k/scribe_scrolls_question/

I can't figure out how to do it though. I have a level 9 scribing kit, my brownfur learned scroll scribing and can make a lot of other stuff (he's been making seamantles for a while now) and he has dispel magic greater learned in the spellbook, but I don't see it as an option to make new scrolls of.

Anyone know how to scribe greater dispel scrolls?

[MjKorz]

You can't scribe them for some unfathomable reason.

If you could, Nenio's value as a party member would double and she's already the best.

[snuggleform]

Aite thanks for the confirmation. I have read a couple posts of people saying they can and have scribed them, I guess they were mistaken or using a mod or something, and you can buy scrolls of them from vendors (at caster level 11, sigh), but I have never been able to scribe them myself despite checking and double checking a number of arcane and divine spellcasters on my team.

I just had a realization about nenio, maybe it's already common knowledge out there but I just realized and tested that with her level 10 scroll savant ability, you can indeed boost up those sucky vendor bought dispel scrolls CL! The arcane weaver sells a couple greater dispel ones, arisineo sells about 26 or so, and the chaplain if you have the dlc sells close to 200. This is actually kind of amazing news for a number of reasons:

-you can combine this with librarian cloak/specialist belt boost to add even more CLs to dispel (I just tested this with a level 19 nenio wearing librarian cloak and using the dispel scroll had a modifier of 23, as expected). No, the dispel goggles once a day perfect 20 doesn't affect scrolls, I tried that. So potentially +4 from cloak, +1 from belt, +1 from spell weaver staff, +3 from that dlc robe, so caster level 29 dispel scrolls, NOT BAD at all! Mythic path independent level 29 dispel scrolls are going to be freaking useful.

-normally nenio is an abysmal dispeller because she has opposition to abjuration so it sucks up a ton of her slots to do that, but you can just carry/fill her utility belt with greater dispel scrolls to make up for that.

So despite being disappointed about not being able to scribe new scrolls herself, I'm pretty happy to learn how to really get some extra mileage out of nenio.

You gotta spend 1650 a pop but hey, that's essentially a workaround to not being able to scribe those things. I feel pretty clever for putting together a lot of in game mechanics regarding dispel, CL, scrolls, yay!

[hilburnashua]

It's weird, it seems like most of the spells that give you an option to choose from when you cast it cannot be made into scrolls. I was trying to make a scroll of dragon form 3 and realized it and none of other other spells that would let you transform into multiple forms was an options.

[snuggleform]

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

It's weird, it seems like most of the spells that give you an option to choose from when you cast it cannot be made into scrolls. I was trying to make a scroll of dragon form 3 and realized it and none of other other spells that would let you transform into multiple forms was an options.

yea that seems to be the case, at least you can buy just about any scroll you can think of from arisinoe/spellweaver, and on top of that the dlc vendor has more than you could ever want.

[Drake]

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

It's weird, it seems like most of the spells that give you an option to choose from when you cast it cannot be made into scrolls. I was trying to make a scroll of dragon form 3 and realized it and none of other other spells that would let you transform into multiple forms was an options.

It's not most of the spells. it's all of the spells that have multiple options.

It's pretty much an engine issue. The scribe scroll is just looking at all of the spells you know and looks if there is a corresponding scroll item in the game.
The issue is that the spell it's listing through is "dispel magic", but there are no "dispel magic" scrolls in the game. There are "dispel magic (point)" and "dispel magic (target)".
Since those spells are not in the spellbook, because they are options, the engine doesn't list them, and since there is no "dispel magic" scroll, it skips it.

The real issue is that how is it that since beta, that error has not been corrected, becasue it seems to me it's just a matter of adding a property to option spells and make the engine push the options into the scribe scroll list when it encounter the flag...
Just like it does when adding an arrow to the icon for you to select the option when you're casting it.