Let Minghao go....

[Slava Ukraini]

Never visit hers hideout!

I will always remember her What a cool chick

[Silyon]

Nah. Don't think I shall.

[IlluminaZero]

I find it really strange how the game seems to imply that Minghao is sympathetic despite all the abhorrent torture / mutilation tier stuff she has done. I get that women by default tend to be given a LOT of leeway but considering that she doesn't even join/serve you or anything WTH would you EVER let her go even as an Evil character?

[Divolg]

Originally posted by IlluminaZero:

I find it really strange how the game seems to imply that Minghao is sympathetic despite all the abhorrent torture / mutilation tier stuff she has done. I get that women by default tend to be given a LOT of leeway but considering that she doesn't even join/serve you or anything WTH would you EVER let her go even as an Evil character?

Unless you are an Azata (who are r e t a r d s) the game doesn't imply, nor even hints at Minagho being sympathetic. The game does show her life tumbling down after meeting you, with Minagho being more and more pathetic each time you run into each other, but to my recollection you don't even get an option to sympathise with her, aside from that Azata specific dialogue.
As for your question, I let her go in the Abyss because I wanted to see just how low will she fall when we meet again. That eventual meeting, in the Ineluctable Prison, was kinda funny, with Minagho getting squashed without anyone in the party even acknowledging her.

[Dark All Day]

Originally posted by IlluminaZero:

I find it really strange how the game seems to imply that Minghao is sympathetic despite all the abhorrent torture / mutilation tier stuff she has done. I get that women by default tend to be given a LOT of leeway but considering that she doesn't even join/serve you or anything WTH would you EVER let her go even as an Evil character?

Why would anyone romance Cam, Wendu or Aru? The devs know people love a redemption arc. If you really want to get deep into the narrative almost none of them actually "Deserve" redemption at all.

[IlluminaZero]

I can see RPing wise to continue working with the female companions. Minagho however is just odd in that; even if you ignore her horrific history, she is ACTIVELY trying to murder you.

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Aru is really trying. Helping Aru without an ulterior motive is both possible RPing wise and; somewhat ironically, probably the best way to actually romance her.

Wenduag basically has orange and blue morality with the REAL mental gymnastics being having her join your party at all at the beginning. Cam is; if anything, a subversion in that she is aggressively unrepentant and calls you out for permitting a psycho serial killer cannibal because shes hot.

Its not difficult to RP Cam being in your party if you KC is either equally evil, pragmatic, or just stupid enough to fall for her lies.

[MattStriker]

Note that the Azata frames letting Minagho go in terms of convincing her to rebel against Baphomet. Other paths that let her live in Alushinyrra don't do that and she predictably tries again and gets offed for good in Drezen, but the Azata not only removes her as a threat (such as it was by that time) but also sets her up as a minor thorn in Goatboy's side.

Also, Minagho is at the very least a highly atypical demon, given that she appears to be genuinely in love with another demon (and it's clearly mutual given how quickly said other demon abandons all their power and prestige to be with her), so there's a certain "hold on, I want to see where this goes..." factor...

[Dark All Day]

Originally posted by IlluminaZero:

I can see RPing wise to continue working with the female companions. Minagho however is just odd in that; even if you ignore her horrific history, she is ACTIVELY trying to murder you.

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Aru is really trying. Helping Aru without an ulterior motive is both possible RPing wise and; somewhat ironically, probably the best way to actually romance her.

Wenduag basically has orange and blue morality with the REAL mental gymnastics being having her join your party at all at the beginning. Cam is; if anything, a subversion in that she is aggressively unrepentant and calls you out for permitting a psycho serial killer cannibal because shes hot.

Its not difficult to RP Cam being in your party if you KC is either equally evil, pragmatic, or just stupid enough to fall for her lies.

Aru did not feel one tiny bit of remorse until a God basically cursed her with a conscience for what she did to a priestess. You can make a real legitimate argument that Minagho is actually more redeemable then "Evil Aru" with no Desna intervention due to some of her dialogues and her being truly tired of the war. Personally though I say kill ALL the demons. Wendu I tend to lean more towards the sympathetic side since she's lived in a cave all her life and has a extremely warped sense of morality. Cam I view as a weapon, nothing more. I opt to use her to kill hundreds if not thousands of demons and put her down myself when she loses control.

[Dark All Day]

Originally posted by MattStriker:

Note that the Azata frames letting Minagho go in terms of convincing her to rebel against Baphomet. Other paths that let her live in Alushinyrra don't do that and she predictably tries again and gets offed for good in Drezen, but the Azata not only removes her as a threat (such as it was by that time) but also sets her up as a minor thorn in Goatboy's side.

Also, Minagho is at the very least a highly atypical demon, given that she appears to be genuinely in love with another demon (and it's clearly mutual given how quickly said other demon abandons all their power and prestige to be with her), so there's a certain "hold on, I want to see where this goes..." factor...

Minagho is extremely intriguing once you do a deep dive. I think Aru is overrated from a narrative standpoint. Her new humanity is not truly her own as it's a curse/gift from a god.

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by IlluminaZero:

I can see RPing wise to continue working with the female companions. Minagho however is just odd in that; even if you ignore her horrific history, she is ACTIVELY trying to murder you.

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Aru is really trying. Helping Aru without an ulterior motive is both possible RPing wise and; somewhat ironically, probably the best way to actually romance her.

Wenduag basically has orange and blue morality with the REAL mental gymnastics being having her join your party at all at the beginning. Cam is; if anything, a subversion in that she is aggressively unrepentant and calls you out for permitting a psycho serial killer cannibal because shes hot.

Its not difficult to RP Cam being in your party if you KC is either equally evil, pragmatic, or just stupid enough to fall for her lies.

yeah, Arue is actively repentant and has an extremely benevolent God (who really hates Demons that do corruption ♥♥♥♥) on her side, giving her a chance is just reasonable for Good characters.

Cammy is easy to justify if your MC is Evil, possibly if they're stupid or extremely horny, but certainly quite justifiable from an RP standpoint.

Wendy can't be justified for any character that isn't stupid since she A) betrayed the Mongrels, B) betreyed the Demons and C) was planning to betray you up till the confrontation with Hosilla.
You need to be an idiot MC to recruit Traitor Mc.Traitor-Face. She's a surprisingly well written character and if you ignore her history she makes a very convincing case, but recruiting her is suicidal if your MC is capable of rational thought (and doesn't have the meta knowledge that she's worryingly loyal)

[Dark All Day]

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

Originally posted by IlluminaZero:

I can see RPing wise to continue working with the female companions. Minagho however is just odd in that; even if you ignore her horrific history, she is ACTIVELY trying to murder you.

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Aru is really trying. Helping Aru without an ulterior motive is both possible RPing wise and; somewhat ironically, probably the best way to actually romance her.

Wenduag basically has orange and blue morality with the REAL mental gymnastics being having her join your party at all at the beginning. Cam is; if anything, a subversion in that she is aggressively unrepentant and calls you out for permitting a psycho serial killer cannibal because shes hot.

Its not difficult to RP Cam being in your party if you KC is either equally evil, pragmatic, or just stupid enough to fall for her lies.

yeah, Arue is actively repentant and has an extremely benevolent God (who really hates Demons that do corruption ♥♥♥♥) on her side, giving her a chance is just reasonable for Good characters.

Cammy is easy to justify if your MC is Evil, possibly if they're stupid or extremely horny, but certainly quite justifiable from an RP standpoint.

Wendy can't be justified for any character that isn't stupid since she A) betrayed the Mongrels, B) betreyed the Demons and C) was planning to betray you up till the confrontation with Hosilla.
You need to be an idiot MC to recruit Traitor Mc.Traitor-Face. She's a surprisingly well written character and if you ignore her history she makes a very convincing case, but recruiting her is suicidal if your MC is capable of rational thought (and doesn't have the meta knowledge that she's worryingly loyal)

A person capable of rational thought would most certainly trust no one in their party except for Seelah and Sosiel. Everyone else is either hiding something, evil or just incompetent and untrustworthy as an ally (For good anyway). However since you likely don't want to play the game with 2-3 party members you must learn how to use the weapons in your arsenal to win a war (Again a rational person's perspective) that you are certainly not supposed to win. I also don't really understand how recruiting her is suicidal? Like everyone else who betrays you, you can easily find out ahead of time and thwart them later in outcomes that are to your benefit really.

[anfindel13]

Originally posted by Darken Black:

Aru did not feel one tiny bit of remorse until a God basically cursed her with a conscience for what she did to a priestess.

Minagho is extremely intriguing once you do a deep dive. I think Aru is overrated from a narrative standpoint. Her new humanity is not truly her own as it's a curse/gift from a god.

Accurate, yet, how does one feel remorse if they lack a conscience? Her humanity was not the "gift/curse" she received. She was gifted with a conscience - what she chooses to do with it is what grants her the opportunity to "gain" what you characterize as humanity. That conscience allows her to develop feelings of remorse - or choose to cast aside the opportunity to develop such feelings, and return to her prior persona. Even then, one can twist and contort their "conscience" all over the place.

Did Hitler have a conscience? I'm sure he would claim he did. Did he feel remorse or regret for the things he did in his lifetime? Likely the only regret he had was that he ultimately failed in achieving his goals.

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by Darken Black:

A person capable of rational thought would most certainly trust no one in their party except for Seelah and Sosiel. Everyone else is either hiding something, evil or just incompetent and untrustworthy as an ally (For good anyway). However since you likely don't want to play the game with 2-3 party members you must learn how to use the weapons in your arsenal to win a war (Again a rational person's perspective) that you are certainly not supposed to win. I also don't really understand how recruiting her is suicidal? Like everyone else who betrays you, you can easily find out ahead of time and thwart them later in outcomes that are to your benefit really.

at time of recruitment, Wendy is already confirmed to have betrayed two leaders, and the MC would've been number 2 if they hadn't had a "moment" and chased off Savamelak. If Wendy didn't act like she got replaced with a doppelganger the instant you leave the Maze she would've switched sides in the first confrontation with Minahgo since her entire motivation is supposed to be "follows the strongest side"
any sane character would consider "this woman betrayed everyone she's served, and has already established 100% willingness to lead me into a trap" a liability.

[S N E E D]

Originally posted by Johnny Spoiler:

Never visit hers hideout!

I will always remember her :3dclm_heart: What a cool chick :balloon:

she eats people

[Slava Ukraini]

Originally posted by Silyon:

Nah. Don't think I shall.

Look in hers eyes and you be in love as me

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by S N E E D:

she eats people

It's a people eats people world out there.