What's the deal with greataxes?

[Eddy Knight]

Both in Kingmaker and WotR you just have to kick a tree to 3 greataxes fall from it.

There is like 20 named greataxes in WotR, and good ones, whereas there is about 10 or 11 at max in the other weapon categories. The developers have some weird fetish with axe wielding barbarians or something?

Ok, now to explain a little of my ranting, my MC uses a greatsword, so it's really annoying to find zillions of +3 or +4 weapons of different categories, especially greataxes, and find ONE +2 greatsword after a lot of playtime.

The point is, Owlcat really needs to work on more balanced weapon creation and distribution between different weapon categories, because this kind of unexplained discrepancy is absurd.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

There are a lot of greataxes, yes. Unfortunately your argument is entirely undermined by choosing greatswords, probably the only weapon type that is even more abundant than Greataxe. Some suggestions:

Lustrous Blade in Ashberry Hamlet. Fight 4 ghosts, get a Mithral greatsword that can blind enemies.

Wintersun has an incredible one called the Fang of Malice and you only need to fight 2 enemies to get it. Amazing for anyone using Rage mechanics. There is ALSO one sold by the blind woman in Wintersun itself after you resolve the quest there (if she survives).

Blackwater has another incredible one called the Numerian Greatsword, though it requires completing a hard dungeon to get. It can give large enhancement bonuses to stats as well as having a rad unique skin.


You can also buy unique greatswords from the slavemarket in act 4, and in Drezen in act 5. The act 5 Drezen one is absolutely freaking incredible. Deals an extra D6 weapon damage, 2D6 force damage on hit, and an extra 6d6 slashing on enemies below 30% health.

[Eddy Knight]

Hmmm, perhaps I'm too early in the game then, although I'm already at 50h in, lol.

The main reason for my complaint was my experience with weapons so far, having found about 6 +3 and 10 or more +2 weapons, where about 4 of those are greataxes, and just one +2 greatsword.

But alright, my paladin will have to content himself with his trusty +2 greatsword for a couple more hours it seems.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Ah. Hum.. The Ruins of Ashberry Hamlet is quite challenging to tackle in Act 2. Whereabouts are you in the story at the moment?

[Schlumpsha]

The most commonly found weapon in WotR is actually the Quarterstaff, with 26 mind boggling entries. Second place in overrated weapons goes to Longbows and its 23 uniques. Closely followed by a shared third place between Daggers and Longswords: each of them have 22 magical weapons in the game.

Heavy Maces got the 4th place with 20 weapons. And Greataxes are in the fifth place at 18 weapons. Followed by Scythes with 17 ones.

Greatwords are cute in comparison with their 12 unique weapons. There are more Rapiers and Scimitars around than them big swords.

[SmallGespenst]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

The most commonly found weapon in WotR is actually the Quarterstaff, with 26 mind boggling entries. Second place in overrated weapons goes to Longbows and its 23 uniques. Closely followed by a shared third place between Daggers and Longswords: each of them have 22 magical weapons in the game.

Heavy Maces got the 4th place with 20 weapons. And Greataxes are in the fifth place at 18 weapons. Followed by Scythes with 17 ones.

Greatwords are cute in comparison with their 12 unique weapons. There are more Rapiers and Scimitars around than them big swords.

yeah that checks out, Quaterstaffs are also used as Staves, so they do double duty carrying spell casting buffs, Longbows make sense given that they're basically the one martial ranged weapon as far as the game is concerned (there's three different characters that are specced into Longbows by default) and also crossbows suck since they get no stat scaling and shortbows just have less range and damage with no redeeming features, so while it's a bit of a shame they don't pretend to make it a choice by having better shortbows available it understandable they don't make it a trap to pick Longbows.
Daggers also make sense given that they're used as for spellcasting buffs and longswords are the favored weapon of Iomedae and the game likes to pretend that she's the singular relevant god to the whole crusade, so having a lot of longswords makes sense given the setting.

[mk11]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

The most commonly found weapon in WotR is actually the Quarterstaff, with 26 mind boggling entries. Second place in overrated weapons goes to Longbows and its 23 uniques. Closely followed by a shared third place between Daggers and Longswords: each of them have 22 magical weapons in the game.

Heavy Maces got the 4th place with 20 weapons. And Greataxes are in the fifth place at 18 weapons. Followed by Scythes with 17 ones.

Greatwords are cute in comparison with their 12 unique weapons. There are more Rapiers and Scimitars around than them big swords.

Is this including the ones coming from Kingmaker that, I think, you can't actually get in game.

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by mk11:

Is this including the ones coming from Kingmaker that, I think, you can't actually get in game.

Those are only the ones within WotR.

[mk11]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

Originally posted by mk11:

Is this including the ones coming from Kingmaker that, I think, you can't actually get in game.

Those are only the ones within WotR.

Which is not answering the question of whether you can actually get them in game.

[Schlumpsha]

Erm, it does. Otherwise I would have written WotR and Kingmaker. So, yes, the weapon counts are only for weapons you can actively acquire within this game.

[MrQuincy]

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

There are a lot of greataxes, yes. Unfortunately your argument is entirely undermined by choosing greatswords, probably the only weapon type that is even more abundant than Greataxe. Some suggestions:

Lustrous Blade in Ashberry Hamlet. Fight 4 ghosts, get a Mithral greatsword that can blind enemies.

Wintersun has an incredible one called the Fang of Malice and you only need to fight 2 enemies to get it. Amazing for anyone using Rage mechanics. There is ALSO one sold by the blind woman in Wintersun itself after you resolve the quest there (if she survives).

Blackwater has another incredible one called the Numerian Greatsword, though it requires completing a hard dungeon to get. It can give large enhancement bonuses to stats as well as having a rad unique skin.


You can also buy unique greatswords from the slavemarket in act 4, and in Drezen in act 5. The act 5 Drezen one is absolutely freaking incredible. Deals an extra D6 weapon damage, 2D6 force damage on hit, and an extra 6d6 slashing on enemies below 30% health.

I'll have to agree with the opening poster. The weapon selection isn't very fair. Gravesinger is probably the best 2hander in the game. And it's a greataxe.

There are tons of scimitars and longswords.

Falcata's however, are almost non-existent.

Greatswords are about 1/3 less than greataxes.

WE NEED MORE WEAPONS. Where's my ranged starknife?

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

The Wiki is not a reliable source when it comes to weapon lists. For greataxes for example the Rovagug axe is listed 4 seperate times even though it's just enchantment varieties of the same one weapon. Similarly there are entries for weapons that are not obtainable in-game without mods, which I think are unfair to include.

[MrQuincy]

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

The Wiki is not a reliable source when it comes to weapon lists. For greataxes for example the Rovagug axe is listed 4 seperate times even though it's just enchantment varieties of the same one weapon. Similarly there are entries for weapons that are not obtainable in-game without mods, which I think are unfair to include.

Right - you can actually open the game files to take a look. Greataxes far outnumber greatswords. Unless they added more when they added that weapon patch many moons ago.

I haven't checked lately.

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by MrQuincy:

I'll have to agree with the opening poster. The weapon selection isn't very fair. Gravesinger is probably the best 2hander in the game. And it's a greataxe.

There are tons of scimitars and longswords.

Falcata's however, are almost non-existent.

Greatswords are about 1/3 less than greataxes.

WE NEED MORE WEAPONS. Where's my ranged starknife?

Falcatas with 7 uniques are better off than a lot of other underrepresented weapons. Especially when compared to the absolute bottom of the barrel: Javelins! T H R E E uniques throughout the whole game. And that includes Finnean being transformed into one. Nothing short of incomprehensible.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Originally posted by MrQuincy:

Originally posted by Super Cosmic Space Magnet:

The Wiki is not a reliable source when it comes to weapon lists. For greataxes for example the Rovagug axe is listed 4 seperate times even though it's just enchantment varieties of the same one weapon. Similarly there are entries for weapons that are not obtainable in-game without mods, which I think are unfair to include.

Right - you can actually open the game files to take a look. Greataxes far outnumber greatswords. Unless they added more when they added that weapon patch many moons ago.

I haven't checked lately.

Interesting! Presumably that's where the wiki got the data from. I don't know how else they'd have the stats and enchantments of unobtainable weapons. Presumably they were items that were added to the game but not attributed to monsters, or were loot tables from monsters that were cut for the game's release.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

In any case, Act 3 does present a few awesome Greatswords for OP once they conquer Drezen.