scroll scribing worth it?

[snuggleform]

- let's not worry about using Nenio or any specific scroll boosting classes/items

- yeah I know there's a lot of gold in the game, but still my main concern is do the scroll scribing kits "pay for themselves?" They cost tens of thousands of gold and I'm not sure I'm scribing/using scrolls that often. Did you guys find any particularly great scrolls to scribe as you naturally progress through the game? Is it just better to buy scrolls that are good or to pay the costs of a potentially very expensive scroll kit?

[Augustine]

In wotr dinosaur bones are quite rare and legendary proportions remain just as powerful. for that reason alone it's worth it from a min-max pov. There are many other reasons to spell scribe aside from that though

[gmwaddington]

Nenio can scribe a scroll of Legendary Proportions without needing dinosaur bones,. That's my go-to scroll.

[snuggleform]

Ok, are there other good ones to scribe? Legendary proportions appears to need a level 7+ scribing kit, are there any reasons to buy ones lower than that?

[MjKorz]

You can scribe scrolls of spells that are modified by metamagic. This means you can scribe Extended Shield, Extended Mage Armor and Extended Seamantle and give those scrolls to your pajama tank like a Muttwarrior/Monk.

So yes, scribing scrolls is super useful.

[mk11]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

Ok, are there other good ones to scribe? Legendary proportions appears to need a level 7+ scribing kit, are there any reasons to buy ones lower than that?

I'ld buy the Level 4 kit in chapter 1 then upgrade to Level 8 when you can and avoid any intermediates.

In chapter 1&2 I like Nenio making Haste scrolls that Wolfjit can cast as a way to get Haste in party without taking Nenio. Stoneskin scrolls give a bit of protection for rear-rank characters without needing diamond dust. If you have UMD on a melee MC then there are various personal spells that could be useful (Shield, Divine Power, Effortless Armour, Expeditious Retreat, Lead Blades).

Made scrolls are often a lot better than found/bought scrolls because they have higher caster level.

[hilburnashua]

It's worth having, especially if you have something like either a scroll savant with a high UMD in your part of someone capable of making very useful, long term buffs or spells like heal, mass heal, greater restoration, stone to flesh. I do wish we could scribe dispel magic and greater dispel magic scrolls. That seems like a bug.

[Immortal Reaver]

I use it to get personal spells on Mutation Warrior. Seamantle, Mirror Image etc.

[Silyon]

Buying a scribing kit for Nenio is just one of those expected expenses I always do without really thinking about the costs involved. Any scroll she makes is buffed to her caster level, so even things like the Shield spell last significantly longer than normal. Factor in metamagics, make bolstered selective fireball scrolls or extended Haste scrolls that anyone with UMD can use. Yeah, it's good.

If we turn around and look at it strictly from a cost analysis viewpoint, it's still pretty worth it once you get to midgame. The Level 4 Kit is a one-time investment of ~14k gold. Each scroll you craft with it requires 2-3 ingrediants that are commonly found for free or can be bought for less than 25g each. 4th level scrolls resell for ~700g. At that rate, selling a mere 20 scrolls, made over 20 rest periods, recoups the initial investment and anything past that is pure profit.

[The Ghost Pyro From Outerspace!!]

I think the only downside is how poorly this game sorts spell scrolls. Since you can't sort by class/level taking the time to find the scroll you're looking for can be a real pain in the ass.

[snuggleform]

Hmm good info guys thanks.

The next natural question is which potions are worth crafting?

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

The next natural question is which potions are worth crafting?

Mage Armor for your tanks and Brilliant Inspiration for damage dealers, but I never bother with crafting potions.

[mk11]

Originally posted by snuggleform:

Hmm good info guys thanks.

The next natural question is which potions are worth crafting?

Ones that you don't use regularly but would like to have handy. Lesser Restoration for example.

It is worth thinking about ingredients. Try not to use ingredients in short supply that you need for useful scrolls.

Also, you want your best Knowledge(World) person on the job to get food bonuses. Do you want to waste a Mythic ability to get Mythic Brew Potions on them?

[mudakonn]

Potion and scroll making are really for the moment you rest in Drezen not while running around in world map i guess, so you can rest as much you need for potions / scrolls.

You dont need anybody to prepare food then or any other tasks and can use some random mook for it (special merc or char who you do not like - Nenio for instance)