im just going to say it

[asnjas19]

im throwing it out there. all or nothing

if you want to make the game cooler for casuals then focus on different stuff.

im casual.

i could care less about recommended builds and autoleveling hand holding for my self or partners.

what i care about is annoying poop. i hate how every dang status ailment has a different remedy. i hate how even the "correct" remedy doesnt work either on certain ailments (i think).
I hate how there is a different dang protection buff for every dang ailment.
permanent "make you rest debuffs" are annoying (negative level)
resting so you can memorize a protective debuff just for one area is annoying. casuals like myself want to have their "Set" spells they can use universally.
my party needing to juggle dispell, sickness, mental, paralysis, blind, curse, poison, movement. im not quite sure why there are so many remedies. especially since so many are rarely used.

like divide it into 2 types: magical and body. that way you can dispell the magical stuff and "remedy" the physical/mental stuff. most of the remedies are single target so it wont break anything since you need to memorize multiple spells anyways. same thing for protection as youd have to memorize multiple copies so if youd want to fully protect all party members then youd sacrifice an entire level of spells to do so.

i also hate how i basically never got to use poison spells the whole game.

[Thicc Mittens]

It's because it's a fairly faithful recreation of an existing tabletop RPG ruleset - these are all (subjectively) issues with the Pathfinder source material.

Not that you can't try, but I don't think you'll get any of that changed this long after release... but possibly there's some mods that would help simplify some of those things for you (I'm not sure, I haven't dabbled with mods, but I know there's some auto-buff ones).

Pathfinder is known for that sort of thing I'm afraid, so if it's a significant issue for you I'd recommend avoiding any games based on its ruleset in future (or D&D 3.5 for that matter).

[asnjas19]

nah im like talking to all my peoples outside the areelus den in the seemingly ultra last mission where im bout to walk in the doors, so im not even afraid about that. i just killed keralagmingul.

[IlluminaZero]

Items, scrolls, and spontaneous casters are a thing.

[anfindel13]

They could do that - but then it would be C & C (Cool and Casual) and not D & D - or maybe WoW-Finder - though I'd hazard a guess WoW also has various different heals and cures.

They made a game based on Pathfinder 1.0/ D&D 3.5 - and you chose to buy that game. It appears you wanted to play a different game - I hope you find what you are looking for out there, as there is a myriad of options to choose from.

[darkholyPL]

Originally posted by asnjas19:

i could care less about recommended builds

But you couldn't care any less about learning the right idiom, eh?
Ok, ok... personall pet peeve aside.
This is a game, that uses the Pathfinder table top rules, it will never change it to what you like, because that would no longer be Pathfinder. It would be a different game.
Get Pillars of Eternity for example, if you want a game sort of like this, but with simpler rules.
In short, what you want will never happen for this series. Also, the things you don't like, is exactly why players, who like DnD 3,5/Pf 1e play this game.

[.O.]

If you don't like all the different ailments and you are a casual, why not just turn on that option in the difficulty tab that gets rid of all conditions after a rest?

[Raikon]

believe it or not this game was designed with casuals in mind. You could just go to the difficulty setting.....

[Shahadem]

Higher level spells are curealls.

So problem solved.

But I guess everyone has their own pet peeve. For me it is how physical weapon damage is way too high (ridiculous crit damage needs to be reduced by 90% and weapon attack per turn number needs to be reduced to 2 per turn instead of 7ish) while magic damage is way too low at high levels (or keep magic damage as it while reducing hp), how buffstacking is totally stupid but required even though it shouldn't be a thing and is a sign there is a massive problem with the game mechanics, and how wearing armor is worse than wearing no armor.

But the debuffs needing their own low level spell to remove didn't bother me.

[.O.]

you think magic damage is low? Are we playing the same game? Arcane magic is ridiculously powerful. I'm not a minmaxer myself, but I think I remember someone doing like 2k+ damage in a single spell.

Then there's the instant death stuff like the illusion spells or the aoe damage and control like sirocco

[Yoinkyz]

have you ever heard o personal preference op?

[darkholyPL]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

But I guess everyone has their own pet peeve. For me it is how physical weapon damage is way too high (ridiculous crit damage needs to be reduced by 90% and weapon attack per turn number needs to be reduced to 2 per turn instead of 7ish) while magic damage is way too low at high levels (or keep magic damage as it while reducing hp), how buffstacking is totally stupid but required even though it shouldn't be a thing and is a sign there is a massive problem with the game mechanics, and how wearing armor is worse than wearing no armor.

Well you're in luck then! What you're looking for is called DnD 5e.
You're welcome.
Also, Pathfinder 2e seems to be more this speed as well, but I have yet to play or watch anyone else play it.

[asnjas19]

Originally posted by darkholyPL:

Originally posted by asnjas19:

i could care less about recommended builds

But you couldn't care any less about learning the right idiom, eh?
Ok, ok... personall pet peeve aside.

an idiom is when you can not get the meaning of the phrase from the words alone but is passed down through general understanding ie it is raining cats and dogs outside. i couldnt care less is not an idiom.

speaking of idioms, just to add salt to the wound, red squiggly lines underneath words means it is misspelled ie personall. dont be lazy.

Originally posted by .O.:

If you don't like all the different ailments and you are a casual, why not just turn on that option in the difficulty tab that gets rid of all conditions after a rest?

yeah you underestimate my casualness. i have it checked. hate resting.

[Mr Fred]

Stick to dnd 5e games like Solasta and BG3 if you want a casual experience, for better or for worst casuals are their audience.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Buried beneath the confusing rhetoric about casualness is a pretty reasonable point: Dispelling status ailments from your party can be a confusing process. Paralysis can sometimes be removed as if it is a magic effect with Dispel Magic, but a magic spell causing Petrification cannot. However it can be broken by Deny Enchantments. ... whut? I oftentimes find the game inconsistent or at least unintuitive in how dispelling works, or I'll cast "Remove Disease" only to learn that nothing short of a natural 20 is going to remove Ash Pox from my character.

[Vae Victis]

Try Pillars of Eternity or Solasta.