Halfling bard cant pick weapon focus sling staff?

[Fistimus Maximus]

Thought halflings treated it as a marital weapon but level 2 bard cant select weapon focus sling staff. Is this a bug as I rerolled as halfling thinking I wouldnt need to pick weapon exotic

[Schlumpsha]

Bards are proficient with simple weapons plus longsword, rapier, shortsword and shortbow. That's it. You would need to pick the Martial Weapon Proficiency feat on your Bard to access sling staffs as a martial weapon rather than a exotic one.

Or play as a Skald. Those get access to all martial weapons free of charge.

[Fistimus Maximus]

ah my bad just assumed it was racial

[Yannir]

Originally posted by Fistimus Maximus:

ah my bad just assumed it was racial

Halflings don't have racial weapon proficiencies.

Take a look at the Mwangian Hunter background. Wiki says it gives proficiency in slings but since there are no slings in the game, I wonder if it gives a slingstaff proficiency ingame? Can't check for you atm so try it yourself.

[Conquista]

Originally posted by Yannir:

Originally posted by Fistimus Maximus:

ah my bad just assumed it was racial

Halflings don't have racial weapon proficiencies.

Take a look at the Mwangian Hunter background. Wiki says it gives proficiency in slings but since there are no slings in the game, I wonder if it gives a slingstaff proficiency ingame? Can't check for you atm so try it yourself.

in kingmaker and wotr halflings can get weapon proficiency for sling staffs like elves can do with elven curve blades

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by Yannir:

Halflings don't have racial weapon proficiencies.

They do. It's just that the game doesn't mention it. Create a halfling, choose any class with access to martial weapons and add a sling staff to your inventory. You will be able to equip it no problem.

Really have no idea why Owlcat never properly documented this fact. Or why the weapon itself isn't called "Halfling Sling Staff" for that matter. Whereas Orc Double Axe, Gnome Hooked Hammer, Dwarven Waraxe/Urgrosh or Elven Curve Blade all have their proper racial prefix in their name. This is a long standing reported bug, going back to the alpha days.

[Yannir]

Originally posted by Conquista:

Originally posted by Yannir:

Halflings don't have racial weapon proficiencies.

Take a look at the Mwangian Hunter background. Wiki says it gives proficiency in slings but since there are no slings in the game, I wonder if it gives a slingstaff proficiency ingame? Can't check for you atm so try it yourself.

in kingmaker and wotr halflings can get weapon proficiency for sling staffs like elves can do with elven curve blades

According to Fextralife they don't, according to Fandom they do. Elves, Half-Orcs and Dwarves have a trait "Elf/Half-Orc/Dwarf Weapon Familiarity" that allows the exotic weapon varieties as bonus proficiencies. Halflings have no such trait.

Whether that's actually true in the game I can't verify right now. Apparently OP doesn't have it, based on the existence of the thread.

[Yannir]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

Originally posted by Yannir:

Halflings don't have racial weapon proficiencies.

They do. It's just that the game doesn't mention it. Create a halfling, choose any class with access to martial weapons and add a sling staff to your inventory. You will be able to equip it no problem.

Really have no idea why Owlcat never properly documented this fact. Or why the weapon itself isn't called "Halfling Sling Staff" for that matter. Whereas Orc Double Axe, Gnome Hooked Hammer, Dwarven Waraxe/Urgrosh or Elven Curve Blade all have their proper racial prefix in their name. This is a long standing reported bug, going back to the alpha days.

Oh ok, that mostly explains it even if it's not ideally communicated.

[Chronocide]

The game's communication isn't great. And it doesn't even explain why it's communication isn't great.

Like how the fighter still can't take Hand Crossbow proficiency....Only the rogue class grants that.

Or how even with the Shield Bash feat, weapon focus (shield bash) still requires martial weapon proficiency...

[Conquista]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

They do. It's just that the game doesn't mention it. Create a halfling, choose any class with access to martial weapons and add a sling staff to your inventory. You will be able to equip it no problem.

Really have no idea why Owlcat never properly documented this fact. Or why the weapon itself isn't called "Halfling Sling Staff" for that matter. Whereas Orc Double Axe, Gnome Hooked Hammer, Dwarven Waraxe/Urgrosh or Elven Curve Blade all have their proper racial prefix in their name. This is a long standing reported bug, going back to the alpha days.

tbf 'halfling sling staff' sounds like a tiny weapon, while in reality its massive, its so big in wotr halflings wielding slingstaff look just weird

Originally posted by Yannir:

According to Fextralife they don't, according to Fandom they do. Elves, Half-Orcs and Dwarves have a trait "Elf/Half-Orc/Dwarf Weapon Familiarity" that allows the exotic weapon varieties as bonus proficiencies. Halflings have no such trait.

Whether that's actually true in the game I can't verify right now. Apparently OP doesn't have it, based on the existence of the thread.

from my understanding op is a bard with only simple weapon proficiency, so of course he won't have sling staffs available

he would need martial weapon proficiency like someone else already suggested, but he did not know that because he thought being able to use racial weapons is a racial feat without other prequisites

but whatever i already played linzi in kingmaker with a slingstaff and used a halfling barbarian in wotr

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by Conquista:

tbf 'halfling sling staff' sounds like a tiny weapon, while in reality its massive, its so big in wotr halflings wielding slingstaff look just weird

That's more of a case where Owlcat modeled them after the medieval staff sling (aka fustibalus) and put for some reason a slingshot on it.

The actual halfling sling staff on the other hand in tabletop is supposed to be a short club with a sling attached. Plus, you can even wield it as a simple weapon dealing bludgeon damage equal to the "club's" size. But that wasn't implemented by Owlcat either. Just like the throwable starknifes.

[Conquista]

Originally posted by Schlumpsha:

Originally posted by Conquista:

tbf 'halfling sling staff' sounds like a tiny weapon, while in reality its massive, its so big in wotr halflings wielding slingstaff look just weird

That's more of a case where Owlcat modeled them after the medieval staff sling (aka fustibalus) and put for some reason a slingshot on it.

The actual halfling sling staff on the other hand in tabletop is supposed to be a short club with a sling attached. Plus, you can even wield it as a simple weapon dealing bludgeon damage equal to the "club's" size. But that wasn't implemented by Owlcat either. Just like the throwable starknifes.

huh ya weird design decision, its like oversized twohanded swords in jrpgs

[anfindel13]

When I see "halfling sling staff" my brain pictures a 6 foot tall barbarian, slinging halflings from a staff ....If only.