How to increase Greater Dispel DC?

[PainkillerDCXVI]

I need to roll a 34 but I'm only at 31 with a d20, plus I'm already level 20, does anyone know? It's impossible to dispel a certain boss and it's a pain because there's more fights after that and I can't rest. Thanks

[Drake]

Dispel magic check is 1d20 + caster level against the enemy spell DC (11+caster level at which the spell was cast). So you pretty much need to buff your caster level, spell specialization and mythic school mastery, merging spellbooks or other mythic powers that up your caster level.

[hilburnashua]

Dispel magic/ Greater dispel magic doesn't have a DC. DC is the check you make to resist a spell. I might be sounding pedantic but there is a huge difference between DC and caster level check which is what Dispel Magic does.

The roll to dispel a magical effect is the caster level of the caster (as opposed to the character level which is the characters total levels in classes) plus a D20 roll. Are you saying you need to roll a 34 on the die to dispel the effect? There isn't a lot to pump up the roll on a dispel magic roll. If you have Spell Specialization - Dispel magic/Greater Dispel Magic that will add +2 to your caster level. Mythic School Mastery - Abjuration will add another +1 to that roll. There are an eye slot magic item that will add +1 to your caster level for dispel magic/greater dispel magic purposes and once per day will make the die roll a 20. I am sure there are probably mythic path abilities that would increase that ( I know Aeon has one) as well.

[PainkillerDCXVI]

So, impossible for me to increase it then? Damn lol I don't think there's equipment that increase abjuration DC... The goggles makes you roll a 20 or give you 20 instead of 11? I have that one.

[Drake]

Originally posted by PainkillerDCXVI:

So, impossible for me to increase it then? Damn lol I don't think there's equipment that increase abjuration DC...

Equipment that increases DC wouldn't work anyway. Dispel magic is a caster level check, not a DC check, so you need caster level bonus not just any DC. A dispel caster needs to be built with dispel specialization in mind from the start.
The other way would be to roll a 20 on the check to crit.

[hilburnashua]

I thought there was a food that would increase your caster level but I am not seeing one.

[hilburnashua]

Hmm, are you using greater dispel magic off a scroll? If you are and you aren't having Nenio (with 10 ranks in her starting class) then the caster level will be 11. That would account for your 31 number if you are using the goggles to max out the die roll (the +1 the goggle give you won't affect the roll on the scroll since the scroll is technically casting the spell, not the character).

[PainkillerDCXVI]

Scroll... Nenio is at the camp unreachable unless I reload, might just do that or struggle a little bit I guess...

[Drake]

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

Hmm, are you using greater dispel magic off a scroll? If you are and you aren't having Nenio (with 10 ranks in her starting class) then the caster level will be 11. That would account for your 31 number if you are using the goggles to max out the die roll (the +1 the goggle give you won't affect the roll on the scroll since the scroll is technically casting the spell, not the character).

Unless you use a scroll crafted by nenio with a CL 20, then it will have the +20 not base +11.
In a general matter, using crafted scrolls is a way better idea than just buying them.

[PainkillerDCXVI]

man... this game is so freaking complex xD I love it.

[hilburnashua]

Yeah, a thing to note about scrolls is that the caster level of the scroll is basically the (spell's levelx2)-1 for most scrolls. The DC of a scroll is 10+spell level + the minimum stat to cast a spell of that level. The minimum stat to cast a spell of a certain level is 10+ the spell's level. So, as an example, if you where to use a scroll to cast fireball the DC would be 10+3 (spell level)+ 1 (13 stat which is a +1) =14. The Scroll Savant class is very interesting because at lvl 10 in the class when you cast a spell from a scroll it uses your caster level instead of the scroll's caster level and you add your Int modifier instead of the one that is determined by the scroll. It doesn't allow you to apply feats ( such as school specialization) or mythic feats. Found that out the hard way thinking I was going to be smart having Nenio casting Death Ward on the party using scrolls since she has the mythic feat to make the spell last 24 hours if she cast it.

[hilburnashua]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by hilburnashua:

Hmm, are you using greater dispel magic off a scroll? If you are and you aren't having Nenio (with 10 ranks in her starting class) then the caster level will be 11. That would account for your 31 number if you are using the goggles to max out the die roll (the +1 the goggle give you won't affect the roll on the scroll since the scroll is technically casting the spell, not the character).

Unless you use a scroll crafted by nenio with a CL 20, then it will have the +20 not base +11.
In a general matter, using crafted scrolls is a way better idea than just buying them.

Ayup, when you craft a scroll you can create it with a CL up to the CL of the person crafting it. I was just thinking of found/purchased scrolls but that is a good catch Drake.

You can also craft them at a lower level then max. Which can be useful if the higher CL of the scroll takes more then one day to make and you were just planning on having Nenio cast it anyways. (I love Nenio),

[lemurs2]

This is why scroll savant is a better class than most realize.

[Aliceskysareblue]

Originally posted by PainkillerDCXVI:

I need to roll a 34 but I'm only at 31 with a d20, plus I'm already level 20, does anyone know? It's impossible to dispel a certain boss and it's a pain because there's more fights after that and I can't rest. Thanks

maximise or empower

[Drake]

Originally posted by Aliceskysareblue:

Originally posted by PainkillerDCXVI:

I need to roll a 34 but I'm only at 31 with a d20, plus I'm already level 20, does anyone know? It's impossible to dispel a certain boss and it's a pain because there's more fights after that and I can't rest. Thanks

maximise or empower

You can't maximize nor empower dispel magic...

[Baldurs_Gate_2]

Toybox with roll 20 out of combat. You can dispel almost every encounter out of combat while invisible.