Sosiel build (and Trever)

[Yannir]

So, I want to use Sosiel primarily as a reach melee damage guy. Haven't found a good build that does that as they seem to mainly assume you want to focus on his support aspects. Which I don't need since my MC is a Life/Nature Oracle headed for Angel MP.

I'll also pick up Trever to replace Seelah. I know he's not the best but a 2-handed melee DPS build really doesn't require much to be effective. I'm using an Eldritch Scion merc as a main tank and the party will have 2 pets as well so I don't need Seelah as a damage sponge.

I don't need help picking feats or spells but I'm just wondering if Sosiel in that role is any good in the first place?

[mk11]

Not the best but I have him riding a Mastodon and isn't too bad

[Yannir]

Originally posted by mk11:

Not the best but I have him riding a Mastodon and isn't too bad

I should specify that I don't really fancy using mounts.

Also, about Trever, should I level him up as a Fighter, Barbarian or some third option entirely?

[Vae Victis]

Armored hulk is probably the worst barb subclass, fighter may be boring but its pretty solid still. I dont really care for paladin or hellknight. a dip into primalist to get mage armor and rest fighter might not be too bad but hes never going to shine imo.

[Der Mentat]

If you don't have a Skald in your party, the best option for Sosiel is probably a Vital Strike build. Repeating attacks are good if you have a lot of sneak attacks or elemental barrage but both is difficult to get for Sosiel (exept if you use the geniekind exploit).

In my first playthrough I tried this by simply multiclassing with Fighter (Cleric 16, Fighter 4). Fighter helps with feats and allows you to take Greater Vital Strike at level 20. But if you don't need Frightful Aspect on Sosiel (because your Oracle MC has it and is in melee as well) it might make sense to take just as many cleric levels as you need for the domains.

[Steffan]

If Sosiel gets the mythic power for a second domain communal, that helps trever a lot. As for Trever, I've built him with endless rage and boosts on strength and attack... also devastating criticals. He is a beast.

[Yannir]

Originally posted by steffan8:

If Sosiel gets the mythic power for a second domain communal, that helps trever a lot. As for Trever, I've built him with endless rage and boosts on strength and attack... also devastating criticals. He is a beast.

That would be a third domain actually. Clerics get 2 at character creation. And I already have Community domain on Lann who's going Sacred Huntsmaster. I might double up though if I decide I want Legendary Proportions on Sosiel. Having 2 Guarded Hearths wouldn't be bad either.

Originally posted by Der Mentat:

If you don't have a Skald in your party, the best option for Sosiel is probably a Vital Strike build. Repeating attacks are good if you have a lot of sneak attacks or elemental barrage but both is difficult to get for Sosiel (exept if you use the geniekind exploit).

In my first playthrough I tried this by simply multiclassing with Fighter (Cleric 16, Fighter 4). Fighter helps with feats and allows you to take Greater Vital Strike at level 20. But if you don't need Frightful Aspect on Sosiel (because your Oracle MC has it and is in melee as well) it might make sense to take just as many cleric levels as you need for the domains.

I hadn't considered a Vital Strike build so thanks for that. I might do that. It would make sense to go Domain Zealot and use swift-casted Bit of Luck/Divine Fortune with Vital Strike.

My Oracle main is primarily a caster so I will likely do the Cleric 16/Fighter 4 on Sosiel. I did a similar thing with my Warpriest and I was happy with the results.

[Conquista]

instead of going fighter, go loremaster, skip one vital strike feat and pick transformation for bab

[Yannir]

Originally posted by Conquista:

instead of going fighter, go loremaster, skip one vital strike feat and pick transformation for bab

If I can use Domain powers while Transformed, I'll take that into consideration.

[Raikon]

You dont need help with feats, your just wondering if sosiel is a good reach melee?

The answer is no, hes not. Especially if you dont want him riding around on a pet. I didnt see a question regarding trevor, no need to comment there.

[Der Mentat]

Originally posted by Yannir:

If I can use Domain powers while Transformed, I'll take that into consideration.

You can use some of them. Abilities like Bit of Luck are spell-like abilites and don't work with transformation but extraordinary abilites like Divine Fortune can still be used.

[hilburnashua]

My present build with Sosiel is 4 ranks Armored Hulk, 15 ranks cleric, and 1 rank in fighter (2 hander) at level 20. I have him using an elven curved blade (found a +5 with Elder acid burst). Built him to be a Vital Strike monster, the fighter level at lvl 20 allows him to take Greater Vital Strike since he will have a 15 BAB at that point. Has the mythic feats for improved critical, vital strike, sorcerer's reflexes (the one that lets you cast a spell for a free action at the start of a fight), the one that lets you use a domain as a free action, infinite rage, and last stand. Primarily uses his spells to increase attack bonus (divine power and divine favor, extended metamagic to use his 5th and 2nd slots as well) as well as the occassional Eagle Soul. Is permanently Legendary Proportioned thanks to Nenio. Typical Greater Vital Strike hit is upward of 280 damage with crits being 800+. Although I have noticed a bug where acid burst is only doing 1d10 on a crit instead of 2d10. But that damage is so incidental I don't even care.

[Senok el Tirun]

Originally posted by Der Mentat:

Originally posted by Yannir:

If I can use Domain powers while Transformed, I'll take that into consideration.

You can use some of them. Abilities like Bit of Luck are spell-like abilites and don't work with transformation but extraordinary abilites like Divine Fortune can still be used.

There is the Natural spell Feat, which allows you to cast spells in Wild Shape or in Major Forms, but then you must multiclass into one of the classes, who has those abilities... As it possess a great Wisdom from the beginning, he could do that, but then it would lose the bonus from the Heavy Armor Proficiency. I heard, that there is a Dragonscale Plate somewhere in the game, but no information about it's finding plate, so i couldn't try out yet.
(If someone knows, where is it's hiding place, then I would be thankful for the information.)

[jonnin]

I know he uses a glaive but if you swap to a fauchard you can take a crit and sneak attack aoe machine approach. Then you could do like slayer (arcane to teleport to the middle of enemy and ac buffs?) for high bab and whether you dip into rowdy or not is up to you.
You could also try the sneak attack paladin (sorry about name, scion maybe?) to retain some clerical functions (?). I have never tried that one, and its only 4 ranks of SA.

From there its just a basic enlarge person / cleave them all smack down.