SIABRAE FIGHT

[MrJimory]

i wanna start off by saying that i really love this game im on my fourth run through rn and im currently on the siabrae and m wondering if anybody else thinks that this is probably the absolutely worst fight in the game, the combination of the spells like polar midnight and scirocco are destroying my party and i cant even get an attach in at all because its ac is wayyyyyy over 20 i know about the stat bloat and everything but this one seems ridiculous and i cant rember how i did it previously i probably just save scummed till i got a good roll. (btw im playing on core as always) any help would be appreciated

[MjKorz]

Fights like this are a good wake up call for anyone who ignores having a good high initiative disabler caster in their party.

[MrJimory]

so your just gonna criticise and not help me? thanks random guy on the internet. like i said help would be appreciated not what this random guy did. would also like to point out i tried to dispel magic his are of effect attacks and the dc is 32 and i cant seem to hit it even with a + 12 that my highest caster had.

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by MrJimory:

so your just gonna criticise and not help me?

I already helped you: "high initiative disabler caster". There is a reason Nenio starts with max intelligence and is one of your early companions.

This fight exposed a hole in your party composition, so fix it.

[MrJimory]

who hurt you to be like this way mate, you heard of therapy? also i dont like nenio i cant stand having her in my party

[Mr Fred]

Oh its "that guy" that like caster a bit too much. Maybe his thing work but its by no mean a hole in your team to not have a "lol disabler caster" as all my casters are always buffbot and I never had any issues.

If youre not careful he will call you clueless on the internet!

[MrJimory]

awww this guy do stuff like this alot then? cheers Mr Fred your actually nicer than he was

[Mr Fred]

In at least another thread, sound like an unfair player that have a very specific caster build that worked for him once and now he think its the only way to play.

[MrJimory]

awww he definiteley needs therapy

[Včelí medvídek]

Nah dont think it is worst at all, one of worst fights in game for me was the blight treant on same map few levels back (demon in cave was "fun" as well).

had no particular issue with this one - iirc she was droping the effect around but my melees just brute force her down, while using heal for restore abiltiies adn spam positive energy,

Possibly best advice - come at higher level.

[MrJimory]

yeah im lvl 12 atm think my plan is coming back later, does heal fix ability damage? i did try that and it didint work

[Včelí medvídek]

lvl 7 spell "Heal" restore temporary ability damage too. There is more spells with this effect, I have also used Clenasing flames but not sure if it is angel path specific.

[MjKorz]

Making horrible party composition choices and then complaining that your party doesn't work is a classic.

[forkofspite]

Yes, heal fixes ability damage. However, polar midnight causes ability drain - the heal spell does not fix that (need restoration).

Originally posted by MrJimory:

im currently on the siabrae and im wondering if anybody else thinks that this is probably the absolutely worst fight in the game

Seems unlikely that anyone else would think that.

Originally posted by MrJimory:

i probably just save scummed till i got a good roll. (btw im playing on core as always)

What's the point of pushing up the difficulty if save scum is a viable tactic?

Originally posted by MrJimory:

any help would be appreciated

Without knowing anything about your play style, party composition, and builds, I don't see how anyone could provide help.

One strategy that worked for me:
* 24 hour buffs from greater enduring spells
* ranged attacks
* aeon bane

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

In at least another thread, sound like an unfair player that have a very specific caster build that worked for him once and now he think its the only way to play.

Playing unfair encourage to break the game rules - that is perfectly fine for the difficulty but sadly the game is not well balanced and require come close to it and similar mindset even on difficulties below core.

People like MjKorz just have fun like that and found nothing off on numbers like 100 AC, basic attack of same values or synergy effects like spells to broken results.

I respect that but dont admire it - it is not even trigger in me willing to replicate it, somehow I found it opposite to fun I look for in playing RPG games.

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

very specific caster build

There is nothing specific about:
1. Having good initiative.
2. Having access to spells that can take the enemy out of the fight instantly.

It's a general concept that works for both arcane and divine casters specializing in virtually any school of magic.

This fight is good, because most players will not know how to protect themselves from AoE ability drain or might not have the tools. It forces the player to be proactive and disable the caster before he can cast the draining spells, showcasing the value of initiative and instant disables.