auto leveling

[heime2003]

if i let com to pick a skill tree and perks whenever i gain a level, it does decent job? i honestly have no idea about jobs and so many skills so i just leave it to AI. i just want no expertly build or optimized characters but good enough to get through on normal difficulty.
in last crpg, my own build failed so miserably i had to restart the game

[Orion Invictus]

On normal it should be acceptable, yes.

[darkholyPL]

It should be fine for normal, but building a character, that isn't hyper optimized or a 'munchkin' build isn't that hard, in all honesty. Yes it does require some reading, but most choices are what you would think they are: you want to be better with a longsword? Take weapon specialization for longsword, improved critical longsword ect.
You can't really fail miserably building characters here, if you just read what feats do imo.
Oh and you can respec your characters if you make a mistake, so it's not like you're stuck with your bad decissions.

[Gregorovitch]

I would recommend that you build your characters manually. You do not have to be super skilled or optimise them for Normal difficulty. There are three reasons for this:

1. If you let the game do it you won't necessarily understand why the auto-built characters are built the way they are and how you are supposed to use them. If you do it yourself you will.

2. You will do a better job than the auto-build, which is not that good. You will get a better results if you do it yourself even as a beginner.

3. You will learn a lot about the Pathfinder system and therefore you will play much better. Everybody enjoys playing games they are good at more than games they are not. Learning to build Pathfinder characters is how you get good.

There are hundreds of WotR build guides now on Youtube, many alternatives for each companion in the game. I suggest you invest some time watching some and choosing one build you like for each companion you use, whatever you fancy on Normal difficulty, any of them will do. You will also pick up on a lot of good game play tips in the process as most guide videos include demonstrations of their builds in action.

This will pay off hand over fist, you will have a far more enjoyable adventure as a result. Pretty much guaranteed.

Originally posted by heime2003:

i honestly have no idea about jobs and so many skills so i just leave it to AI.

You have enough companions that get enough skill points to cover each job to max possible per level. There are just thee rules to follow:

1. You want one companion with a maxed out roll (for current level) in each of the skills in your normal adventuring party of six.

2. You want to assign each of these companions their specific skill specialisations according to the bonuses they get from class/race etc.

3. In fact you will have a surplus of skill points available to cover all jobs in practice. A tried and tested home for surplus skill points is Perception since all party members get a roll for Perception checks when they come up (and they come up a lot). A lot of players like to have at least three companions with maxed out Perception.

When you start the game you don't know what companions you are going to get obviously. For this reason I would meta-game this as a beginner. Look up the game's companions and find out what their skill bonuses are and pick their individual skill specialities up front in advance. Also find out how many skill points they each get per level, that is the number of specific jobs they can specialise in.

This is a one off exercise. After you've initially chosen their skills levelling up is simply a matter of adding one to each every level, easy.

[heime2003]

Originally posted by darkholyPL:

It should be fine for normal, but building a character, that isn't hyper optimized or a 'munchkin' build isn't that hard, in all honesty. Yes it does require some reading, but most choices are what you would think they are: you want to be better with a longsword? Take weapon specialization for longsword, improved critical longsword ect.
You can't really fail miserably building characters here, if you just read what feats do imo.
Oh and you can respec your characters if you make a mistake, so it's not like you're stuck with your bad decissions.

yeah..all it takes is reading all descriptions of skills and perks but seeing them in action maybe makes me realize ive made mistakes in building characters. fortunately respec is in the game

[gmwaddington]

I found CRPG Bro's videos very helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pathfinder+wrath+of+the+righteous+crpg+bro

There's one for each companion, generally sticking to single-class builds (E.g Seelah is a pure longsword-wielding paladin riding a horse). He goes through each choice, explaining his reasoning. The builds are suitable for playing on Unfair, if you so desire. He covers teamwork feats, which are very important at higher difficulties.

EDIT: Not sure how to build a tripping Animal Companion (which can be quite effective)? The Pets Guide is a good place to start.

[Gregorovitch]

Originally posted by gmwaddington:

I found CRPG Bro's videos very helpful:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pathfinder+wrath+of+the+righteous+crpg+bro

Yeah, his guides are pretty good and the builds are well explained, he goes into the why not just the what. Mortisimal Gaming is another channel to look at.

[Conquista]

the auto builds are okay on normal if you are already familiar with the game, otherwise it can lead to an horrible experience

so if you are a beginner to the pathfinder crpgs and want to play with auto builds, than i would recommend to play on the lowest or next lowest difficulty setting