Elemental rampager (STR) without dips?

[mudakonn]

I tried to approach without dips but in testing it still looked underwhelming.

Ended up buffing CON and WIS to 19 and STR 16 (since CON is base stat for rage anyway) and taking 2lvls of Instinctual warrior (more rage and AC) and one lvl of Primalist for serpent fang opening up for 4lvls of DD - rest would go to druid and druid would basically end up half caster.

Only 2 claw attacks just seems weak on the other hand giving up high level spells and postponing polymorphs seems also weak.

And druid being featstarved also really seemed to gimp the character - just not enough feats.

[Schlumpsha]

No need for dips. Elemental Rampager works well as is. Specially with Demon: Major Aspects take care of STR, WIS or CON. And a good amount of its demonic polymorphs spells have claw attacks.
Gold Dragon may be just as fitting, so long as its dragon form has claws.

[Stink Bug]

As the above poster stated Demon works really well with straight Rampager, and all demon forms can cast naturally; even if you don’t go that path your innate Smilodon Form has 5 attacks at full BAB and pounce (and the gore from the “Close to Abyss” Mythic Hero choice stacks with all forms as well). Lich has that really powerful-looking “Decaying Touch” power but I haven’t tried it. With Druid buffs plus those from your Mythic Path your AC should be good enough even on core without dipping, but if you wanted to minimize impact all you’d need is one monk level.

If you don’t want to polymorph for some reason, you can also start as a race with a bite attack or wield a light weapon for iteratives plus one claw attack for more per round.

While the Druid is indeed featstarved, Owlcat did not implement most Wildshape feats from PnP so it’s not nearly as bad as it otherwise would be.

Also, you can get away without burning a mythic ability on that natural attack DR piercer one; you can get an amulet of mighty fist +3 early in chapter 3 and align weapon works on your natural weapons too.

[mudakonn]

OK, But You still cannot go magic and martial together with so few feats. Power Attack for sure, weapon focus maybe not, for elemental line to shine you really need to take spell penetration*2 and element focus*2, evocation*2 so there is no room for melee feats, mythic need to take ascendant element, spell pene, without dips you dont get bloodline bonuses to element.

But the idea is apparently stick to your class and open with powerful high level spells and then mop up with polymorphed form - cast scirocco and mop up as fire elly.

[Schlumpsha]

Oread gives a +1 to Acid DC, making room for one feat slot you can use other than Elemental Focus. Demonic Rage nets you a general +4 boni to AR, DR, DC and CL at mythic rank 10. With a couple of aspects improving upon this even further. Basically free Spell Penetration and two feat slots you can repurpose for the martial side of things. Likewise, Brutality Incarnate will be more useful to an Elemental Rampager than Spell Penetration (Mythic). The Demon's Deadly Natural Weapons feature only ignores DR from demons and otherwise counts as +2 weapons. For other enemy types you'll really need Brutality Incarnate.

You can of course still pick Spell Penetration and Elemental Focus on top of them for an spell slinger focused Elemental Rampager. But if you want a martial caster hybrid instead, this would be one way to shuffle feat slots. It's all a matter of setting priorities.

[lemurs2]

Or try playing a Kitsune, always be in human form, take master shapeshifter at ~5th lvl. This adds a permanent +4 to all physical stats that stacks with bulls strength etc.
You do not need much of any combat feats at that point, I took weapon focus claw early on, that was about it.
I attacked better than a full bab character and am a 9th lvl caster.

[lemurs2]

Oh, and weapon finesse.

[Raikon]

Druids get shapeshifter forms though. In particular the Smiloden is quite good. Why would you want to go kitsune, when the mythic feat your suggesting gives unlimited wildshapes per day.

Kitsune is a top tier race, but its wasted on druid (most druids). I think there is a druid that cant shapeshift.

[lemurs2]

Elemental rampager does not need to shape change when you have scaling claws and +4 on all physical attributes. At high level, sure, you want to transform into the cool shapes but at mid levels not changing is better.

[Raikon]

Your taking a penalty of -2 stregnth for no reason. A bear form/ human would be vastly better then a -2 strgnyh kitsune.

[lemurs2]

can you cast without a feat in animal form in Pathfinder? I never looked it up, assumed it was the same as 3.5 where you need a feat. I liked the rampager as you stay in humanoid form.
I can easily be wrong though.

[Raikon]

Im struggling with this conversation. I find it extremely hard to believe you necroed this thread, to tell someone to play a shape shifter druid, as a kitsune.

[lemurs2]

Oh sir, I am sorry I broke the law you wrote that said 'do not post on threads more than three days old.' Do forgi.... no, what i mean to say is ♥♥♥♥ off, you added nothing to this except to be an ass to someone you do not know.

I commented on a thread in a game still being played that a Kitsune is considered polymorphed in Human form, combining with master shapeshifter and rampage I am happily surprised at how effective of a character this is for me.
Now go back to your munchkin hole where you only play a build that reddit or youtube meta invented for you.

[Raikon]

I'm not struggling because I am an ass (sometimes I am) I'm struggling because the title is asking for a strgnth build, and you gave him a character that has -2 stregnth, and suggest taking a feat that gives wildshape unlimited times a day, then never using it.

This is strait up bad advice to someone who came here seeking help. Your being disingenuous. You dont even get master shapeshifter until level 6. You have a lot of fake outrage for someone who is being cruel to others.

Its like you want the OP to have a bad character, so much infact that you found an old thread to do so. I view it as you are encouraging failure, then laughing about it. Then fake outrage when someone says "hey wait a minute".

[lemurs2]

Wow, you look FAR to deeply into things. I looked up rampager on the forum, saw this thread and posted some thoughts I had on my new character.
You seem extremely interested in being outraged.... about anything. You think I gave bad advice to the person who wrote the thread 3 months ago? Really?
You are just looking for a fight or outrage because you have problems.

And blocked.

[Raikon]

In regards to this thread that has been abondend. If you talk to Selklind ( by barracks) eventually you can get a quest from him to go to an area. On that area there are high lvl checks worth a lot of exp, and a +4 or +5 mighty fist amulet (from alpha pack leader)