Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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echoeagle3 6 MAY 2022 a las 8:11 a. m.
I will admit Im bad at games but i can't be the only one right?
Seen a lot of people talking about how they are playing on core difficulty or higher then that. And apparently these people are doing just fine. Im over here struggling on normal difficulty. Am I actually in the minority? Or are the people who aren't so good/tryhard at the game just not posting stuff?
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Včelí medvídek 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:16 p. m. 
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That's not buffed. Or rather partially buffed. You debuffed Camellia there by increasing her size. Enlarge Person reduces Dexterity and applies a size penalty to AC and attack. It's in the spell description too.
It is actually righteous might so beneficial for her, though she suffer that 1 size penalty.

But anyway what buffs I miss to go from 5% hit chance to something more reasonable? As you can see it is 23 vs 45 atm, so I would need like 10? more. And what can do character like Greybors that has even less posisbilities?
Última edición por Včelí medvídek; 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:19 p. m.
Drake 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:23 p. m. 
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That's not buffed. Or rather partially buffed. You debuffed Camellia there by increasing her size. Enlarge Person reduces Dexterity and applies a size penalty to AC and attack. It's in the spell description too.
It is actually righteous might so beneficial for her, though she suffer that 1 size penalty.

But anyway what buffs I miss to go from 5% hit chance to something more reasonable? As you can see it is 23 vs 45 atm, so I would need like 10? more.

Not having outflank is an issue. Flanking with outflank gives you +4 on 2 melees. Then you're missing greater magic weapon, that should give you +1 at least. Righteous might isn't that good on a dex fighter. Consider using reduce person. So that's 7 point difference. If you're not using a +4 dex belt, get cat's grace (I don't know your initial dex bonus but that might give you +1 to hit).
Something you should consider also is greater invisibility, being invisible gives bonus to hit to anything that doesn't have true seeing or blind fight.
Última edición por Drake; 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:25 p. m.
Dryad 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:25 p. m. 
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That's not buffed. Or rather partially buffed. You debuffed Camellia there by increasing her size. Enlarge Person reduces Dexterity and applies a size penalty to AC and attack. It's in the spell description too.
It is actually righteous might so beneficial for her, though she suffer that 1 size penalty.

But anyway what buffs I miss to go from 5% hit chance to something more reasonable? As you can see it is 23 vs 45 atm, so I would need like 10? more. And what can do character like Greybors that has even less posisbilities?

Righteous Might still is a debuff since it reduces Dexterity. Reduce Person, Bless, Greater Heroism, Haste, and Cat's Grace are the buffs you want. Bull's Strength does nothing; Enlarge Person and Righteous Might are debuffs to avoid for Camellia.
Dryad 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:25 p. m. 
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It is actually righteous might so beneficial for her, though she suffer that 1 size penalty.

But anyway what buffs I miss to go from 5% hit chance to something more reasonable? As you can see it is 23 vs 45 atm, so I would need like 10? more.

Not having outflank is an issue. Flanking with outflank gives you +4 on 2 melees. Then you're missing greater magic weapon, that should give you +1 at least. Righteous might isn't that good on a dex fighter. Consider using reduce person. So that's 7 point difference. If you're not using a +4 dex belt, get cat's grace (I don't know your initial dex bonus but that might give you +1 to hit).

It looks like a Dex bonus of +6 before the Righteous Might. So no belt of incredible dexterity or cat's grace. And he used bull's strength to attempt to buff her.
Última edición por Dryad; 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:29 p. m.
Drake 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:29 p. m. 
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Not having outflank is an issue. Flanking with outflank gives you +4 on 2 melees. Then you're missing greater magic weapon, that should give you +1 at least. Righteous might isn't that good on a dex fighter. Consider using reduce person. So that's 7 point difference. If you're not using a +4 dex belt, get cat's grace (I don't know your initial dex bonus but that might give you +1 to hit).

It looks like a Dex bonus of +6 before the Righteous Might.

No, the +6 is the total bonus, but that bonus has the base bonus from your level and the enhancement bonus from buffs. So if you have 20 base dex you have +5, and then a +2 dex from a belt is giving you the +6, so if you use cat's grace you'll get +4 enhancement so you get another +1 for a total of +7. If however you have 18 base and a +4 dex belt, cat's grace does nothing.

Oh and I forgot, use demoralize to shake enemies, that's a -1 to AC, so a +1 for you.
Última edición por Drake; 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:32 p. m.
Dryad 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:34 p. m. 
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It looks like a Dex bonus of +6 before the Righteous Might.

No, the +6 is the total bonus, but that bonus has the base bonus from your level and the enhancement bonus from buffs. So if you have 20 base dex you have +5, and then a +2 dex from a belt is giving you the +6, so if you use cat's grace you'll get +4 enhancement so you get another +1 for a total of +7. If however you have 18 base and a +4 dex belt, cat's grace does nothing.

I was going to type out something longer, but I think we're agreeing just in different ways that he's not buffed like he thinks he is.
Včelí medvídek 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:35 p. m. 
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It is actually righteous might so beneficial for her, though she suffer that 1 size penalty.

But anyway what buffs I miss to go from 5% hit chance to something more reasonable? As you can see it is 23 vs 45 atm, so I would need like 10? more. And what can do character like Greybors that has even less posisbilities?

Righteous Might still is a debuff since it reduces Dexterity. Reduce Person, Bless, Greater Heroism, Haste, and Cat's Grace are the buffs you want. Bull's Strength does nothing; Enlarge Person and Righteous Might are debuffs to avoid for Camellia.
There is already bless but overwritten by other morale bonus. I dont have wizard caster so no haste and no greater magic weapon. I will be more aware of correct stat bonuses but it still abrely scrap edge of 19-20 rolls.

What you would sugegst for Greyhound? beside bless, strength and prayer, he is even worse.
Včelí medvídek 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:40 p. m. 
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How you, guys, can't beat enemy's resistance? I struggled with it in first act, so I decided t
Very easily - now Ember needed roll 14+ (SR 26, her bonus is +12) to pass the check, and she has spell penetration. mythic only bypass resistence so far but still.
Última edición por Včelí medvídek; 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:45 p. m.
captrench 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:46 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por echoeagle3:
Seen a lot of people talking about how they are playing on core difficulty or higher then that. And apparently these people are doing just fine. Im over here struggling on normal difficulty. Am I actually in the minority? Or are the people who aren't so good/tryhard at the game just not posting stuff?
Its not just you.

I played all the Baldurs Gate, NWN etc... and didn't have a problem with medium difficulty and up. But this was a long time ago. Maybe I'm just old now ;)

In Pathfinder WotR, I've had my ass handed to me too many times so I've lowered difficulty to "Casual" and whenever I've had particularly difficult battles even on this level I adjust it down again to "Story". Hey, I'm not writing all this to look good, just showing some solidarity :)

The games saving grace to me is that it's good and I think very re-playable. On my next play-through I'm going to enable Crusade mode and see if I can get the secret ending also. Or eventually I will lol.

Its not just you. Your reasons for difficulties with the game might not be the same as mine, but the struggle is shared at least.
Drake 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:47 p. m. 
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Righteous Might still is a debuff since it reduces Dexterity. Reduce Person, Bless, Greater Heroism, Haste, and Cat's Grace are the buffs you want. Bull's Strength does nothing; Enlarge Person and Righteous Might are debuffs to avoid for Camellia.
There is already bless but overwritten by other morale bonus. I dont have wizard caster so no haste and no greater magic weapon. I will be more aware of correct stat bonuses but it still abrely scrap edge of 19-20 rolls.

What you would sugegst for Greyhound? beside bless, strength and prayer, he is even worse.

greater magic weapon is not a wizard spell only, it's also a divine spell. You can get it with sosiel and daeran (seelah too, but it's lv 4 spell for her).
For haste and greater invisiblity. I'll say it again. Scrolls and potions.
In my current party my only arcane caster is a witch (so no haste) so I use a wand of haste that I bought, and I have her with use magic devices and a stack of scrolls.
You can also have nenio (even if you leave her at the camp) pick brew potions and make potions of haste when you're resting in the city.

Items are extremely important. Half of my buffs come from items. I only use memorized slots with spells that have enhanced DCs or metamagics (the big one), for trash fights and common encoutner buffs, I use scrolls and potions.
Dryad 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:47 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Včelí medvídek:
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Righteous Might still is a debuff since it reduces Dexterity. Reduce Person, Bless, Greater Heroism, Haste, and Cat's Grace are the buffs you want. Bull's Strength does nothing; Enlarge Person and Righteous Might are debuffs to avoid for Camellia.
There is already bless but overwritten by other morale bonus. I dont have wizard caster so no haste and no greater magic weapon. I will be more aware of correct stat bonuses but it still abrely scrap edge of 19-20 rolls.

What you would sugegst for Greyhound? beside bless, strength and prayer, he is even worse.

You could always carry around a bag full of scrolls too. It's not hard or too heavy. Outflank feat on all melee attackers would've been useful too and would boost attack for everyone when you flank enemies.

This would all add up to an attack bonus of about +32 at minimum for Camellia and possibly just as high for Greybor.
Última edición por Dryad; 6 MAY 2022 a las 12:57 p. m.
Ivas 6 MAY 2022 a las 1:00 p. m. 
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How you, guys, can't beat enemy's resistance? I struggled with it in first act, so I decided t
Very easily - now Ember needed roll 14+ (SR 26, her bonus is +12) to pass the check, and she has spell penetration. mythic only bypass resistence so far but still.
Just checked. My Ember has +26 on spell penetration (+35 buffed). She's 14 lvl witch now. Don't know your lvl though
MjKorz 6 MAY 2022 a las 1:01 p. m. 
People talk about all these multiclass creatura builds, yet they forget that the strongest build in the game is a simple Wizard 20.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2778021190
Última edición por MjKorz; 6 MAY 2022 a las 1:02 p. m.
Včelí medvídek 6 MAY 2022 a las 1:09 p. m. 
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Very easily - now Ember needed roll 14+ (SR 26, her bonus is +12) to pass the check, and she has spell penetration. mythic only bypass resistence so far but still.
Just checked. My Ember has +26 on spell penetration (+35 buffed). She's 14 lvl witch now. Don't know your lvl though
Lvl 12. On character screen it shows 18 but in real combat hte roll was +12 only... and how do you buff it?
Ivas 6 MAY 2022 a las 1:10 p. m. 
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and how do you buff it?
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