Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Cabbage Dec 4, 2021 @ 10:02am
Loremaster Questions
I'm looking into Loremaster as a prestige class and was curious about a few things, so hopefully someone can help me!

1. Does the "Lore" class feature stack? The class progression has it that the Loremaster gets 5 of this (every even level) so do i get 2.5 x my level to my knowledge and lore checks at level 10 Loremaster?
2. Is the bonus applied by Lore using my Loremaster or total level?
3. Does "Greater Lore" have an effect in game? It says it gives a +10 Knowledge (arcana) bonus when checking an item to determine its properties. As far as I'm aware anyone with Detect Magic can identify an item without a roll at all, so I'm curious if the game just gives me a +10 Knowledge (arcana) forever or never.
4. I've seen some people nearer to when the game was launched citing Loremaster doesn't give you spellcaster levels in the spellbook you pick. Has this been fixed? I looked over a few patch notes but not all of them and saw no changes beyond the prestige class now works with skald.

Any help with answering is appreciated :)
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Keaton Dec 4, 2021 @ 10:32am 
Wasnt this class still buggy up to this point? A reason why I avoided picking it up until now.
Cabbage Dec 4, 2021 @ 10:43am 
I was hoping the bugs had been sorted since I only saw posts from around September talking about em! I haven't kept up with all fixes in the patch notes so I can't say for certain tbh, just hoping that if they had been fixed someone would know and tell me lmao, so if no one can say i'll avoid it for a bit too
frogmoth Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:10am 
It's still not fixed, i checked yesterday.
FunkyMonkey Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:14am 
I have Nenio as 10 Scroll savant and 10 Loremaster, caster level progression works fine, level 20 has 20 caster levels.

Edit. Also, in my game Nenio has +5 bonus from Lore on both Knowledge and Lore skills with 10 levels of Loremaster. Don't know if Greater lore does anything, though.
Last edited by FunkyMonkey; Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:21am
frogmoth Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:
I have Nenio as 10 Scroll savant and 10 Loremaster, caster level progression works fine, level 20 has 20 caster levels.

But can you pick spells from other classes (the main feature of this class)?
FunkyMonkey Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:24am 
Originally posted by frogmoth:
Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:
I have Nenio as 10 Scroll savant and 10 Loremaster, caster level progression works fine, level 20 has 20 caster levels.

But can you pick spells from other classes (the main feature of this class)?
Nope, the secrets don't give spells from other classes. I don't play tabletop so didn't know it could have been an option until lot later so I wasn't disappointed :D Would have liked to have known that each secret is selectable only once though.
Last edited by FunkyMonkey; Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:24am
Cabbage Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:
Originally posted by frogmoth:

But can you pick spells from other classes (the main feature of this class)?
Nope, the secrets don't give spells from other classes. I don't play tabletop so didn't know it could have been an option until lot later so I wasn't disappointed :D Would have liked to have known that each secret is selectable only once though.
oh, i didn't think to ask if the spell stuff worked! okay, I guess i shall wait for the bug fixes for it then!

does anyone have any idea about the Lore and Greater Lore stuff?
FunkyMonkey Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by Cabbage:
Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:
Nope, the secrets don't give spells from other classes. I don't play tabletop so didn't know it could have been an option until lot later so I wasn't disappointed :D Would have liked to have known that each secret is selectable only once though.
oh, i didn't think to ask if the spell stuff worked! okay, I guess i shall wait for the bug fixes for it then!

does anyone have any idea about the Lore and Greater Lore stuff?



Originally posted by FunkyMonkey:
I have Nenio as 10 Scroll savant and 10 Loremaster, caster level progression works fine, level 20 has 20 caster levels.

Edit. Also, in my game Nenio has +5 bonus from Lore on both Knowledge and Lore skills with 10 levels of Loremaster. Don't know if Greater lore does anything, though.

This my earlier answer in case you missed it. :)
Cabbage Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:40am 
oh im sorry i completely did! thank you so much for the help
Frostfeather (Banned) Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:56am 
I can't answer your questions about the Lore stuff because I only took Loremaster for the Spell Secrets, but... if you're going to take Loremaster, I'd look at the Tabletop Tweaks mod. Owlcat took the lazy way out with Spell Secrets by saying "uuuuh that's too hard to do... so Loremasters don't get Spell Secrets now", but the mod adds them. And the caster level issue is also fixed, along with the problem of some classes not getting spell progression.

So yeah, it's pretty much a required mod to use Loremaster.
Last edited by Frostfeather; Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:58am
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