Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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marceror Nov 24, 2021 @ 9:21am
Spirited Charge Seems To Be Broken/Useless
I currently have a Cavalier/Beast Rider and Seelah/Paladin in my party with the Spirited Charge Feat. I am not seeing any damage being doubled when they charge an enemy while mounted.

Is this feat working currently for others? I did a search and cannot find other people reporting this issue.
Originally posted by csone:
I posted about this in various threads, I got the same problem with my Cavalier Main-Character.

The Cavalier Feat "Mighty Charge" also doesn't work. After the patch 1.1.2d Devs must have added something in the mechanics, that broke Spirited Charge and Mighty Charge, because after the mentioned patch it stopped working.

Prior to that Spirited Charge was working but sometimes after resting it didn't work.

I made some observations and when it was working as intented the Combat Log went like this:

Main-Char. charges
Mount charges
...
Mainchar dmg: weapon dmg + 100% weapon dmg (piercing) = 200% weapon dmg
...
Mainchars uses combat Maneuver "Trip" / "Bullrush"

Now only the mount seems to use the charge, because the combat log doesn't state the Main Char using charge and so "Spirited Charge" and "Mighty Charge" are rendered useless and don't even apply because only the Mount charges and the Mainchar makes one weapon hit with only 100% dmg and no 200% dmg.

I also made an in game bug report (Alt+B) about this issue, because this bug simply breaks the whole Cavalier Class somehow and seriously decreases its combat performance.

I really hope the Devs will fix this soon.
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csone Dec 2, 2021 @ 12:39pm 
Originally posted by marceror:
Originally posted by rallybackmonkey:
For me using turn based mode, the rider and mount are stuck, they don't even move when I charge. Charging while mounted is completely useless. When 1.1.0 was introduced it seemed like most of the mounted combat issues were resolved, I don't understand why they changed it to this.
Maybe their developers are paid hourly, and needed to ensure that they had a steady supply of development work? All those bug fixes threatened to put someone out of a job??

Roll back the fixes! :P

yeah exactly...everything was fine....after release it also kinda worked.^^

*bump* Devs pls take notice of this...and all you guys sould make a bug report ingame (Alt+B) ;)
rallybackmonkey Dec 2, 2021 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by csone:
Originally posted by marceror:
Maybe their developers are paid hourly, and needed to ensure that they had a steady supply of development work? All those bug fixes threatened to put someone out of a job??

Roll back the fixes! :P

yeah exactly...everything was fine....after release it also kinda worked.^^

*bump* Devs pls take notice of this...and all you guys sould make a bug report ingame (Alt+B) ;)

Done twice, one after 1.1.2, when I first noticed it, and one after 1.1.3, when it was still there. Unfortunately it's not gamebreaking, just a crippling bug for those of us that want to use Cavaliers as God intended, riding into our enemies like a battering ram and killing 2/3 of them in one hit. :P
csone Dec 2, 2021 @ 2:09pm 
yes, I am running with 12 Cavalier lvls atm (my MC is lvl 12) and I want to go to Cavalier lvl 20 for that imba 300% weapon dmg Charge, but when the bug doesn't get fixed, this Feat would also be completely useless.

I am also using a 2hand Greataxe because reach-weapons like the Claive where bugging most of the time in Mounted Combat.
I remember that after release there were no such bugs...sometimes the pathing did not work and you could not charge but ok that was not as feat/char breaking as it is now.
Last edited by csone; Dec 2, 2021 @ 2:14pm
marceror Dec 3, 2021 @ 2:55pm 
Even with the broken feats, my Cavalier is pretty darn powerful, so I guess I'm not complaining too much at this point. As long as he can hit, he's doing some pretty impressive damage. And the fact that he gets a full attack after his horse moves into range is sort of broken in his favor.
Fistimus Maximus Dec 3, 2021 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by csone:
well I got over 200 hours played with my Cavalier-Build and I really like the class and the high damage spikes it can or better could do, because atm it can't because of this bug...it was working before but now it's somehow broken, so it has to be possibly to fix it, so that it works again ;)
I feel you im in same boat, Only reason I played was for cavalier, was the one thing I wanted back in kingmaker...after all the bugs to do with mounted combat now this.
Hunter Dec 4, 2021 @ 12:50pm 
any experienced mounter warriors here on this very sub managed to achieve the achievement called 'masterful charge'? The one with 300 dmg. If yes, please explain step by step who did the killing, what was the gamemode (RTwP / turn-based), what was the mount, the weapon and so on, 'cause looks like its bugged. Dealt 300 dmg more than once and nothing yet
Raggle Fraggles Dec 4, 2021 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by Hunter:
any experienced mounter warriors here on this very sub managed to achieve the achievement called 'masterful charge'? The one with 300 dmg. If yes, please explain step by step who did the killing, what was the gamemode (RTwP / turn-based), what was the mount, the weapon and so on, 'cause looks like its bugged. Dealt 300 dmg more than once and nothing yet
I did it a couple of patches ago. I was rocking a Cavalier of the Paw because it's a halfling only class and I thought it'd be absolutely hilarious, but it's actually mad dumb strong because you can just give free Teamwork feats to your team, which include your mount. Anyway, I just maxed STR as much as could, and did it with a the strongest reach weapon I had at the time (at this point it was when Finnean upgraded to the +3 form with a bunch of other enhancements to his name. Pretty sure I was longspear mode, due to that X3 crit. The x3 crit is REALLY important. I picked up all the feaths/mythic feats that related to buffing the charge the mount, and improved critical on the longspear. Mount was a wolf, though that subclass can only pick dog or wold, don't think it matters much. Mount was Bulwark type. Just dumped all STR points into him. Bully probably works better. Also was in RTwP.

Also, editing this in now as I just remmebered, had that mythic feat that removes stat penalties from your race, so I had extra 2 STR than usual at this point since I Halfings have -2 STR normally.

Happened to land a crit on a Babou while I had Enlarge Buff and Bull's Strength, Greater Heroism, Seize the Moment and Precise Strike teamwork feat buff activated between my mount and I and probably other other buffs. Did around 350ish damage due to that X3 crit which killed the Babou. But like I said that was during a patch when all this mounted stuff was working.

If you absolutely had to cheese it, wait until you're strong enough to crit 150+ dmg, get a 3x crit weapon, save before random encounter fight and reload until you crit kill something,
Last edited by Raggle Fraggles; Dec 4, 2021 @ 2:48pm
Hunter Dec 4, 2021 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by Raggle Fraggles:
Originally posted by Hunter:
any experienced mounter warriors here on this very sub managed to achieve the achievement called 'masterful charge'? The one with 300 dmg. If yes, please explain step by step who did the killing, what was the gamemode (RTwP / turn-based), what was the mount, the weapon and so on, 'cause looks like its bugged. Dealt 300 dmg more than once and nothing yet
I did it a couple of patches ago. I was rocking a Cavalier of the Paw because it's a halfling only class and I thought it'd be absolutely hilarious, but it's actually mad dumb strong because you can just give free Teamwork feats to your team, which include your mount. Anyway, I just maxed STR as much as could, and did it with a the strongest reach weapon I had at the time (at this point it was when Finnean upgraded to the +3 form with a bunch of other enhancements to his name. Pretty sure I was longspear mode, due to that X3 crit. The x3 crit is REALLY important. I picked up all the feaths/mythic feats that related to buffing the charge the mount, and improved critical on the longspear. Mount was a wolf, though that subclass can only pick dog or wold, don't think it matters much. Mount was Bulwark type. Just dumped all STR points into him. Bully probably works better. Also was in RTwP.

Also, editing this in now as I just remmebered, had that mythic feat that removes stat penalties from your race, so I had extra 2 STR than usual at this point since I Halfings have -2 STR normally.

Happened to land a crit on a Babou while I had Enlarge Buff and Bull's Strength, Greater Heroism, Seize the Moment and Precise Strike teamwork feat buff activated between my mount and I and probably other other buffs. Did around 350ish damage due to that X3 crit which killed the Babou. But like I said that was during a patch when all this mounted stuff was working.

If you absolutely had to cheese it, wait until you're strong enough to crit 150+ dmg, get a 3x crit weapon, save before random encounter fight and reload until you crit kill something,
I even managed to kill the enemy with 600 dmg (lol), nothing unlocks... Also watched a couple of videos and saw that there are double charge icon (videos were captured in september). As for the current state of the game, don't see any double charges when charging an enemy. So I guess this is a bug huh?
Raggle Fraggles Dec 5, 2021 @ 2:49am 
Yeah, as of right now, when mounted, your mount is the one doing the charging and not the person riding it.
Bloodartist Dec 5, 2021 @ 3:00am 
Press Alt+B ingame to make a bug report
csone Dec 6, 2021 @ 2:31pm 
*bump* still broken after latest patch, Devs only fixed the full attack bug after charging and the "Mythic Charge" Feat but everything else is broken as before..."Spirited Charge" still not working. -.-

edit: ok tested some more and after resting "Spirited Charge" worked again...so we seem to be back to "sometimes it doesn't work and then after resting it works again".^^
Last edited by csone; Dec 6, 2021 @ 2:48pm
marceror Dec 9, 2021 @ 7:13am 
I played last night and was very happy to see spirited charge working again! If Owlcat happens to see this thread, thank you for getting this fixed! :steamhappy:
Håkan Feb 13, 2022 @ 8:18am 
And now it is broken again :(
Adeptus Stark Feb 17, 2022 @ 3:46pm 
So this feat worked fine when I was a solo class. When I took levels in Hell Knight it stopped doing double damage on charges. Very not cool. :steamthumbsdown:
IRuleAll Feb 17, 2022 @ 3:49pm 
seems like charge works just fine on my gendarme. im only lvl 12 and if i crit on a charge i do like 350-400 dmg
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