Unarmed monk is useless.

[Gorbachop]

My traditional monk is doing 0 dmg with her unarmed attacks. Why the hell is this even a class if it deals no dmg?

edit: angry typos

[MjKorz]

Welcome to Pathfinder. Not all classes are born equal. Monk is strictly a dip class to get WIS->AC conversion. Sohei is a strict dip class to get an extra attack. Enjoy your stay.

[seeker1]

My unarmed monk does plenty of damage with his unarmed attacks.

I use Toybox.

♥♥♥♥ Mathfinder. I make what I want to work, work.

Have a nice day. Some people love munchkining around arbitrary systems; I prefer to make them logical; everybody's different.

[Schlumpsha]

Unarmed monks need their Ki pool and sufficient level progression to overcome enemy DR.
For their ki strikes to overcome DR/Cold Iron a Monk level of 7 is required. At 10th level, they can overcome DR/Lawful. And at 16th ki strikes overcome DR/Adamantine.

Though, wearing an Amulet of Mighty Fist will become available far earlier ingame.

[Immortal Reaver]

Depends when.
Early buff Monk with Magic Weapon (lvl 3-5).
On mythic rank 1 (cca level 5) you can pick Brutality Incarnate, a Mythic Ability. It makes your natural attacks ignore all damage reduction except N/-.

[forkofspite]

Medium sized race
Pummeling Style
Legendary Proportions
Power Attack
Mythic Power Attack
Approximate strength of 34 (including legendary proportions - could easily be higher)
Amulet of Mighty Fists +4

+30 / +30 / +30 / +25 / +20 / 15
(With haste and ki strike: +31/+31/+31/+31/+31/+26/+21/+16)
Each attack 6d8+34 (average of 61 per hit)
DR only applies once

You'll need more buffs, but more abilities are available as well.

In Act 1, you'll struggle against creatures with DR. In Act 2, an artifact is available which will significantly help against creatures with DR.

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by forkofspite:

Medium sized race
Pummeling Style
Legendary Proportions
Power Attack
Mythic Power Attack
Approximate strength of 34 (including legendary proportions - could easily be higher)
Amulet of Mighty Fists +4

+30 / +30 / +30 / +25 / +20 / 15
(With haste and ki strike: +31/+31/+31/+31/+31/+26/+21/+16)
Each attack 6d8+34 (average of 61 per hit)
DR only applies once

You'll need more buffs, but more abilities are available as well.

In Act 1, you'll struggle against creatures with DR. In Act 2, an artifact is available which will significantly help against creatures with DR.

You forgot to list the most important stat for a martial: crit profile. Once you do, compare it to 15-20/x4 dual handaxes on a non-trickster build (tricksters will have an even better profile).

[forkofspite]

Originally posted by MjKorz:

You forgot to list the most important stat for a martial: crit profile. Once you do, compare it to 15-20/x4 dual handaxes on a non-trickster build (tricksters will have an even better profile).

Where, in my post, did I suggest that this is superior to any other build? The topic involves monks, so I'm limiting this discussion to monks.

edit:
More precisely, the topic is about unarmed monks.

[mike.xulima]

Originally posted by forkofspite:

Originally posted by MjKorz:

You forgot to list the most important stat for a martial: crit profile. Once you do, compare it to 15-20/x4 dual handaxes on a non-trickster build (tricksters will have an even better profile).

Where, in my post, did I suggest that this is superior to any other build? The topic involves monks, so I'm limiting this discussion to monks.

Jimmy likes to tell others his builds are better, whether or not they asked for that information.

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by forkofspite:

Originally posted by MjKorz:

You forgot to list the most important stat for a martial: crit profile. Once you do, compare it to 15-20/x4 dual handaxes on a non-trickster build (tricksters will have an even better profile).

Where, in my post, did I suggest that this is superior to any other build? The topic involves monks, so I'm limiting this discussion to monks.

edit:
More precisely, the topic is about unarmed monks.

Where precisely in my post did I say anything about superiority? I simply reminded you to list a very important stat for an unarmed monk: critical profile.

[forkofspite]

Originally posted by MjKorz:

Where precisely in my post did I say anything about superiority? I simply reminded you to list a very important stat for an unarmed monk: critical profile.

Right about here ... (emphasis added)

Originally posted by MjKorz:

Once you do, compare it to 15-20/x4 dual handaxes

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by forkofspite:

Originally posted by MjKorz:

Where precisely in my post did I say anything about superiority? I simply reminded you to list a very important stat for an unarmed monk: critical profile.

Right about here ... (emphasis added)

Originally posted by MjKorz:

Once you do, compare it to 15-20/x4 dual handaxes

But I never claimed that one is superior to the other. I'm glad you were smart to reach a proper logical conclusion, though :)

[Baldurs_Gate_2]

They rock hard in Pillars of Eternity. But they are pretty mediocre at best in pathfinder.

[forkofspite]

No idea why I'm engaging, but ...

Originally posted by MjKorz:

You forgot to list the most important stat for a martial: crit profile.

There is no need to mention the crit profile for a general unarmed monk.

[Gorbachop]

I reached level 4 with my monk and this is where I call it quits. This has to be one of the most infuriating and negative experiences of a game I've ever had. A min-max only game riddled with bugs that hinder progression constantly. Last bug i encountered before uninstalling was me being unable to enter through a door way mid-combat. Half my party was inside the room, and the other half could not move through the opened door, as if an invisible wall was there. What a mess.

[MjKorz]

Originally posted by forkofspite:

No idea why I'm engging, but ...

Originally posted by MjKorz:

You forgot to list the most important stat for a martial: crit profile.

There is no need to mention the crit profile for a general unarmed monk.

There is as much need as there is to mention monk's AB and number of attacks. If you're going to list your important stats, list them in full to paint a complete picture.