Melee + level 9 spells

[Scylon]

I'm attempting to make a level 9 caster that can also fight melee when he is out of spells. Any thoughts?

[kodama]

If it doesn't have to be Arcane Caster than Shaman (Spirit Hunter, Wildland or Shadow archetypes) or Nature->Battle Oracle (you just have to pay attention while choosing your background to get some decent weapon proficiency without having to burn extra feat for that) + Angel Mythic path are both great choices.

[Conquista]

for divine you can try battle oracle or crusader
for arcane sorcerer with dragon disciple and eldritch knight

[Koveras]

Pretty common idea. Easy to execute. Play a pure druid and shape shift. A sorceror with a draconic + abyssal blood line and shape shift. Pure cleric or oracle. They get decent BAB. Make an eldritch knight. Easy, I recommend using a reach weapon.

[Scylon]

Originally posted by Conquista:

for divine you can try battle oracle or crusader
for arcane sorcerer with dragon disciple and eldritch knight

You thinking 6 sorc, 10 EK and 4 dragon?

[B Unit]

Seems counter intuitive but you may want to consider including a bit of Loremaster in your build if you can squeeze it. Their ability to take pretty much any feat means you can do stuff like take Fighter Finesse, where you can use your DEX to hit on reach weapons instead of STR. This would let you ignore STR attribute and let you use reach weapons so your spells dont get interuppted or get AOO.

[Conquista]

Originally posted by Scylon:

Originally posted by Conquista:

for divine you can try battle oracle or crusader
for arcane sorcerer with dragon disciple and eldritch knight

You thinking 6 sorc, 10 EK and 4 dragon?

yes, if you merge spellbooks with lich you can get additional dips for ac otherwise any further reduction on your spellprogression will lock you out on level 9 spells

[wendigo211]

Mythic Levels open a lot of options, e.g. Something like Student of War 2, Duelist 10, Something melee 8 with the Trickster UMD 3 trick or Wizard 9/Vivisectionist 1/Arcane Trickster 10 with the Trickster Athletics 3 trick also works. You could easily add 10 Caster and 10 EK to any Legend build as well. Looking at the end result you're better off using your Mythic levels to make your gish as opposed to building it traditionally, although it won't come together until act 5.

Sorc 6/DD 4/EK 10 worked in Kingmaker, it doesn't work as well in WotR because enemy ACs, saves and SR are a lot higher. Basically, melee needs to be specialized to hit the tough targets, and spellcasters need to do the same. Trying to walk the middle road probably won't work that well unless you're playing below core.

[Edstyles]

A meele bard could be nice. As a bard or skald you can use spells while using a shield . Use kukri for elemental barrage .

With 9 spells mhm crusader i guess or Oracle or a shapeshift druid . Oracle seems like the most interesting out of Those 3 .

[Conquista]

i don't know man, recommending someone a trickster or a legend build that comes online in act 5 over angel or lich that gets playable in act 3 seems sketchy

btw thanks to spellmerging with lich or angel, its suprisingly easy to walk the middle road even on core, maybe not unfair haven't tried it yet

[AdmiralZeech]

I started off with the same idea, Wizard + EK Lich. But in the end, with abundant casting and the OP lich spells, I never actually reached the "ran out of spells part" so the melee was completely redundant. I re-specced to pure caster to get more L10 spells.

Maybe this concept might be more viable with Legend, I dunno.

[Drake]

Demon battle oracle was nice, the teleport and the demon rage on top of the oracle buffs were a great addition to the build.

[amills1]

Although it doesn't quite match your intention, consider taking an arcane caster with a single level of rogue to get sneak attack then levelling into arcane trickster. Adding sneak attack damage to your attack spells is handy and you get that sneak attack damage to your cantrips.

[ayrtep]

Yes I have been working on one. It is not quite what you are after, its a specialist melee fighter that can also cast level 9 wizard spells if needed.

Designed to be played solo.
1xFighter, 6xThassilonian Specialist/Envy, 3xLoremaker, 10x Eldritch Knight

Start with Martial Discipline background feat to start the crane line. 19 feats stick to mostly melee feats except the two wizard feats and a skill feats to qualify for Loremaster.

I found there were enough feats to get the exotic weapon Estoc feat. From Loremaster I got the Estoc +1 critical multiplayer and uncanny dodge.

Basically just focus on building as best a fighter as you can. Being able to cast 9th level spells has to come in useful at some point.

Envy worked well as the energy buffs are useful, and there are no buffs in Evocation or Necromancy. Six levels is enough to qualify for all the envy tricks.

Start with 20Dex and 15-17int. You don't need high int just enough to cast all your spells, so 19int at the finish, and as you get a +6 dongle you can probably get away with 13 int if you want. Your damage comes from your Estoc; focus on the attribute that links to damage.

As your mostly using buffs, you don't care much about saves-DLC and spell penetration. For attack spell probably focus on ones that rely on touch attacks as you are 3/4BAB. Assume your area effect spells do half damage as most enemies will save, still half damage is still damage.

You see an army approaching, you drop a pit-rift hoping it will stop about half of them. If you ware a specialist conjurer you might hope to stop the whole army, but here you just want to thin the numbers a little.

This sort of build is most effective when playing solo. In a party it is less appealing as you could just build a fighter and have a tame wizard to buff you and then pluck his crossbow.

[PuppYofDOOM]

Abyssal sorcerer.


U could dip 4 into dragon disciple but really its not nessasary..

U just pop transformation and call it a day.. Assuming ur already buffed.


The absolute beast is primal druid. Cuz u can cast and be a natural fighter.