Question about Lann and Ki arrows

[PuppYofDOOM]

Do you need to get ki arrows for his ranged hits to be considered unarmed damage?

Im multiclassing as primal druid im just kinda sore my pets 1 lvl under me (i have boon companion)

[amills1]

If you are referring to having his arrows do the same damage as his unarmed attacks they yes, he needs ki arrows. They will still be considered as being ranged attacks though, not unarmed.

[dwarner]

Originally posted by PuppYofDOOM:

Do you need to get ki arrows for his ranged hits to be considered unarmed damage?

Im multiclassing as primal druid im just kinda sore my pets 1 lvl under me (i have boon companion)

You'd need (way) more levels than it makes sense to take for it to matter that much. The real value there is that eventually Shortbow does as much as Longbow and they keep slowly growing but to take advantage of that would cost you way more in Druid levels.

One thing you may want to consider is ZA3 for Point-Blank Master is you want to fight mounted, which works well with Lann since he starts with Combat Reflexes.

[PuppYofDOOM]

Ima primal druid purely for double size increase and massive str increase. Also at that size isnt his unarmed damage at something rediculous like 8d8?

[PuppYofDOOM]

Hmm i cant make ki arrow and get the lvl 16 benefit. Arg. But +4 size from medium is still huge.. Super huge..

I dunno whether to go

Ki arrows + 4 size vs primal 16 and i dunno what his damage is from... His bow? His fist? *screams*

[Conquista]

you can't really get both one needs i think level 5 zen archer, the other level 16 primal druid
but won't you end up with abit of hit chance issues, most cleric spell list lanns at least have divine power to add up some missing bab

[PuppYofDOOM]

Originally posted by Conquista:

you can't really get both one needs i think level 5 zen archer, the other level 16 primal druid
but won't you end up with abit of hit chance issues, most cleric spell list lanns at least have divine power to add up some missing bab

Well no cuz i at lvl 3 zen u get zen archery and my lan has +5 wisdom and then theres buffs. Dex isnt a factor anymore.

[Edstyles]

You do lose dexterity by becomming big too tho right ? I guess it dont matter on Lann since he can use wisdom anyway. Only annoying being your pet falls behind after lv 17

[Conquista]

all the cleric spell builds on lann i'm speaking about have 3 levels in zen archer, its not about the wisdom instead of dex, its about changing from a high bab to a average bab class

but if you got enough partybuffs to make it work than its fine

[PuppYofDOOM]

Originally posted by Edstyles:

You do lose dexterity by becomming big too tho right ? I guess it dont matter on Lann since he can use wisdom anyway. Only annoying being your pet falls behind after lv 17

Im starting to think it might matter anymore and i should just get 3 zen.

I tried googling but i get a buncha of range and area maps and disucssions not about what i nees to find.


Since post lvl 4-7 unarmed becomes 1d8 zen.. But a Comp longbow already is 1d8... Why should i even care about ki arrows.

What matter is whats the difference between unarmed huge and longbow huge.

Not just large. I guess with hurricane bow the arrows will be garguantuan...

Lol are they missle attacks at that point?!