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Desolate Hovel is revealed by getting a Mythic Path quest for it, while as far as I recall Ravaged Long House just needs someone close enough.
IIRC it's a low 40s check.
Okay but you're both wrong.
it's actually for Nenios' puzzle
in toybox it's possible to enable dev console (activated with ` key), and there are tp2loc_.. commands there, which teleport you to areas, but i haven't found the console name for the ravaged house yet (console name are mostly different from frontend user names)
Good luck