What's the best potion to Brew at lower levels?

[Phil85]

I am at level 8 and have a mule for making potions.Heroism and cure critical wounds seem like good ones. Are there better ones to hand out?

[kodama]

What is the caster class of your brewer?

[Phil85]

Well, I can respec her at will as she's just an extra I payed for. She is level 8 and parked at the crusader camp.

[Conquista]

mage armor?

[kodama]

Depending on who you have (and who you don't) in your party:

If you don't have alchemist with infusion than 8 min Shield for Regil and Sosiel (any 2h melee) is nothing to scoff at,

If brewing works in the same manner as scribing scrolls and metamagic applies, pick extend on your merc and multiply duration by 2.

Extended Sense Vitals on caster lvl 8 would mean 16 rounds (96 seconds) of 3d6 sneak dice on each landed attack made both by your melee and ranged. 4d6 from lvl 9 and 5d6 on lvl 15, with expanding duration of course.

Than you have druid Aspect spells. They're min/lvl and some are very good. Druids and rangers also have Acid Maw if you have someone stacking bites (1d4 acid dmg per bite and +1 acid damage every 4 levels from 1, min/lvl)

Hurrican Bow is min/lvl spell that would do wonders for Lann.

Same thing with ranger Lead Blades spell for your melee.

[Phil85]

Originally posted by kodama:

Depending on who you have (and who you don't) in your party:

If you don't have alchemist with infusion than 8 min Shield for Regil and Sosiel (any 2h melee) is nothing to scoff at,

If brewing works in the same manner as scribing scrolls and metamagic applies, pick extend on your merc and multiple duration by 2.

Extended Sense Vitals on caster lvl 8 would mean 16 rounds (96 seconds) of 3d6 sneak dice on each landed attack made by your melee. 4d6 from lvl 9 and 5d6 on lvl 15, with expanding duration of course.

Than you have druid Aspect spells. They're min/lvl and some are very good. Druids and rangers also have Acid Maw if you have someone stacking bites (1d4 acid dmg per bite and +1 acid damage every 4 levels from 1, min/lvl)

Hurrican Bow is min/lvl spell that would do wonders for Lann.

Same thing with ranger Lead Blades spell for your melee.

So I can pick the matmagic skill on my mule merc and she will be able to make higher level potions? Nice. I have two archers in my group, so I will get the hurricane bow potions for them.

[kodama]

I haven't test that with potions yet, mind you, but when Nenio scribes scrolls for me she can pick versions of spells that went through her metamagics. For example, she can scribe selective Grease or bolstered Fireballs and she does that on her caster level.

I usually brew with Woljif cause I tend to multi him into alchemist and why not since he gets a freebie feat. Like Nenio, he can brew on his alchemist caster level but I never took metamagic on him, so you would have to test Extend part with your merc. In theory it should work.

[Immortal Reaver]

Extend Haste is also good.

[Phil85]

What's the best class for my mule merc to use for brewing? I should pick the meta magic skill that extends the duration of spells right? Any other meta magic skill I should pick?

[SergioCOL]

wizard cus of caster lvl and then u dont have to care about what he learns cuz he gets tons of options for spells, but u also need for example, leaf blades is just a ranger spell as far as i know, hurricane bow is for wizard, there are some divine only spells also so u would need a cleric/oracle too

[Immortal Reaver]

Potions are only up to lvl 6 spells and you need to have Mythic Brewing Potion to do it.

[Phil85]

I made a lvl 8 wizard who can make some good scrolls. Even though she has mythic brewing, she can't make many potions compared to scrolls. My dps guys can't use the scrolls b/c the use magic device lvl is too low. Despite using the meta magic extend spell skill, I didn't see any indication that the scrolls were any different.

[Babbles]

Originally posted by kodama:

Depending on who you have (and who you don't) in your party:

If you don't have alchemist with infusion than 8 min Shield for Regil and Sosiel (any 2h melee) is nothing to scoff at,

If brewing works in the same manner as scribing scrolls and metamagic applies, pick extend on your merc and multiply duration by 2.

Extended Sense Vitals on caster lvl 8 would mean 16 rounds (96 seconds) of 3d6 sneak dice on each landed attack made both by your melee and ranged. 4d6 from lvl 9 and 5d6 on lvl 15, with expanding duration of course.

Than you have druid Aspect spells. They're min/lvl and some are very good. Druids and rangers also have Acid Maw if you have someone stacking bites (1d4 acid dmg per bite and +1 acid damage every 4 levels from 1, min/lvl)

Hurrican Bow is min/lvl spell that would do wonders for Lann.

Same thing with ranger Lead Blades spell for your melee.

How are you making potions of Sense Vitals, Shield, Lead Blades and Hurricane Bow?

[kodama]

Originally posted by Babbles:

Originally posted by kodama:

Depending on who you have (and who you don't) in your party:

If you don't have alchemist with infusion than 8 min Shield for Regil and Sosiel (any 2h melee) is nothing to scoff at,

If brewing works in the same manner as scribing scrolls and metamagic applies, pick extend on your merc and multiply duration by 2.

Extended Sense Vitals on caster lvl 8 would mean 16 rounds (96 seconds) of 3d6 sneak dice on each landed attack made both by your melee and ranged. 4d6 from lvl 9 and 5d6 on lvl 15, with expanding duration of course.

Than you have druid Aspect spells. They're min/lvl and some are very good. Druids and rangers also have Acid Maw if you have someone stacking bites (1d4 acid dmg per bite and +1 acid damage every 4 levels from 1, min/lvl)

Hurrican Bow is min/lvl spell that would do wonders for Lann.

Same thing with ranger Lead Blades spell for your melee.

How are you making potions of Sense Vitals, Shield, Lead Blades and Hurricane Bow?

I haven't. I used Woljif to brew potions from both Alchemist and Scoundrel lists and was somewhat convinced that he was able to brew all his spells. After reading your post I reloaded my previous run and figured that I couldn't brew personal target buffs.

So I apologize for misleading post.

On the bright note though, I felt so bad about it, that I spent last hour on running some brewing tests with Metamagics & Mythics:D. I respeced Nenio, gave her both regular and Mythic brewing feats, Extend + Favorite Metamagic and both Enduring Spells abilities. Here is what I've learned:

- Both Extends work on potions. Meaning that, for example, your wizard can brew extended Greater Heroism.

- Enduring Spells do not apply to brewing process.

- Run that I reloaded was a Trickster run, so while I was at it, I've checked if it's possible to cheese non-personal range 7th level buffs (like Firebrand or Legendary) with Completely Normal Spell. It is not (they won't show on brewing list at all).

Then I decided to try brewing Mythic Spells with MC. Sadly, while you can brew spells from regular potion list via your mythic spellbook (like Feather Step, Vanish, Blur and so on), path-specific spells are not an option.

I'm currently doing Angel run, so I'll check if merging allows you to brew (or at least scribe scrolls for Nenio), but it will have to wait until I finish chapter 2.