Mage Armor For Bloodrager Builds?

[Lpaladin]

I've seen a number of guides recommending bloodrager builds and dragon builds based on bloodrager that get AC from casting mage armor and shield. The thing is I don't see those spells available to bloodragers, even though I've seem build guides that include only 20 levels of bloodrager that seem to imply you can get them somehow without taking a dedicated arcane spellcasting class.

I can't figure out how these builds are getting access to those spells, any tips? Thanks!

[Knight Night]

Potions and scrolls

[Lpaladin]

Originally posted by Knight Night:

Potions and scrolls

They seemed to imply you could get the actual spells eventually somehow and only need to use potions/scrolls early on.

[corisai]

To be precise - potions and scrolls used on himself WILL trigger Archmage Armor mythic feat.
And because potion is cheap & will last for 1 hour - it's quite broken OP combo.

[kodama]

Originally posted by Arcadinal:

Originally posted by Knight Night:

Potions and scrolls

They seemed to imply you could get the actual spells somehow.

They get spells from level 3. If you unroll "Details" page (it will be in the left bottom part of the screen) while picking class/archetype during character creation you can see their whole spell progression.

[wendigo211]

I think they can get added to their spell list from the Dragon bloodline.

[jsaving]

The patch introduced a display error, you can't currently see the list of level 1 bloodrager spells at character creation. You do still receive them once you hit 4th level, though.

[dwarner]

Originally posted by Arcadinal:

I've seen a number of guides recommending bloodrager builds and dragon builds based on bloodrager that get AC from casting mage armor and shield. The thing is I don't see those spells available to bloodragers, even though I've seem build guides that include only 20 levels of bloodrager that seem to imply you can get them somehow without taking a dedicated arcane spellcasting class.

I can't figure out how these builds are getting access to those spells, any tips? Thanks!

Clickbait build guides are bad. They're optimizing the wrong game because they didn't have time to understand this one.

Just wear your armor. You have Medium prof and several great Mediums in the game.

[ExcaliburV]

Yeah, mage armor's not a spell that bloodragers get, unless maybe certain bloodlines get them as was implied above.

Originally posted by Arcadinal:

Just wear your armor. You have Medium prof and several great Mediums in the game.

Can't help but agree, Archmage armor is nice but it's not always worth trying to cram it into every single build. Armor works, so don't be afraid to use it.

[Gregorovitch]

A Bloodrager doesn't really need to consider AC that much IMHO. They get medium armour profficiency out of the gate and there are plenty of good medium armour sets that will do just fine.

The idea of a Bloodrager is to, well, Rage, and that reduces AC anyway. The point is that the Bloodrager hits like truck and kills stuff before they get a chance to hit them. A Bloodrager will typically use a whacking great 2H weapon so as to max damage output. This can be a reach weapon, such as a Glaive for example, in which case the Bloodrager can smite enemies from behind their tank front line dealing huge damage with impunity a lot of the time. Especially when Enlarged.

After L4 Bloodrager start getting spells and by L6 they will get the level 2 spell Mirror Image. A Bloodrager sporting Mirror Image is NOT something you would like to meet down a dark alley at night. Very difficult to even scratch them before they cut you to ribbons.

In short I would hold this Archmage Armour mythic feat is at best little more than a gimmick for a Bloodrager and at worst a waste of a mythic feat that could have been better used for something much more useful for such a character. Mythic Endless Rage being a prime example.

[BIG E.]

Just use medium armor. You shouldn't spend your points on Archmage armor while there are hell a lot of other important and broken things that you need. Like Endless Rage, Secondary Bloodline(MUST HAVE), Last Stand(you have to have this), Thundering Blows and there are few more.