Ending Question *Spoilers

[sleeve]

I tried the normal ending and nocticula repented and went to elysium. But in the secret ending she stayed, is there no way to obtan the repent ending and secret?

[jsaving]

Though it isn't explicitly stated in-game, the way you manipulate Nocticula's chosen servant Areelu to get the secret ending causes you to lose enough credibility in Nocticula's eyes that she doesn't end up becoming the Redeemer Queen. So you have to choose which one you find most important, your own power/glory or Nocticula's transformation.

[Vantris]

Originally posted by jsaving:

Though it isn't explicitly stated in-game, the way you manipulate Nocticula's chosen servant Areelu to get the secret ending causes you to lose enough credibility in Nocticula's eyes that she doesn't end up becoming the Redeemer Queen. So you have to choose which one you find most important, your own power/glory or Nocticula's transformation.

Really? I could of sworn you could get redeemer queen and the secret ending provided you completed Ember's quest. Could be wrong though.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by Vantris:

Really I could of sworn you could get redeemer queen and the secret ending provided you completed Ember's quest. Could be wrong though.

In truth base on lore she was headed that way eventually.
No matter what ending you get she will ascend.

The thing this game does more with ember and your character is making that ascension happen earlier.

[Miskatonic]

I've never gotten the redeemer queen slide with the ascension ending. But like Wraith says, she's heading there anyway.

[jsaving]

No, she is only headed there anyway if you don't interfere with history. Your ascension changes Pathfinder lore and blocks her ascension, at least in the runs I've done.

[Higgy]

That is not true, I completed the secret ending as a demon, and Nocticula became the Redeemer Queen still. I didn't accept her gift as I think that locks you out of the secret.
I did several endings on that run to see differences, based on choices in/around the final fight.

[jsaving]

Is that right? Interesting! Thanks for sharing that.

[Higgy]

Np, but it might be a demon specific thing because of mythic quests.

Spoiler if you don't want to have to run through it all. Read at your own risk :P

Regardless of ending you take her spot as Demonic Overlord of the Midnight Isles (as a demon lord, or god). Giving her more free time to go to Elysium.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by jsaving:

No, she is only headed there anyway if you don't interfere with history. Your ascension changes Pathfinder lore and blocks her ascension.

I wouldn’t say blocked more like preoccupied

There are hints that the only thing she needs to do is abandon her demonic aspect.

There also history of you interfering and pushing her toward that path by ember if you let it happen and also Arueshalae (an ascending succubus)