Why doesn't See Invisibility work?

[Kshahdoo]

So I have See Invisibility, Communal on my party, and those Shadow Wing vrocs have Greater Invisibility on them, and my guys/girls miss them because of 50% concealment.

[Kranc / Fr0Zen1]

I thought it would also reveal invisible Enemies, but it does not do that.
Maybe bugged?!

If you are the Kshadoo with the Skyrim Vids, Cheers :)

[Kshahdoo]

Oh well, it looks like now they've stopped missing. A couple of my guys who acted earlier missed their attacks, and others now don't missed them. I had See Invisibility before the combat started.

[Kshahdoo]

Originally posted by Kranc / Fr0Zen1:

I thought it would also reveal invisible Enemies, but it does not do that.
Maybe bugged?!

If you are the Kshadoo with the Skyrim Vids, Cheers :)

Nah, it's not me...

It's even funnier. My main character still keeps missing targets because of 50% concealment, others don't.

[Kshahdoo]

Nah, it's even more funnier: there are 2 vrocs my party keep missing because of concealment, other 4 ones are dead. All of them had Greater Invisibility, but 4 of them weren't immune to my See Invisibility amd these two are.

[provokastoras]

See invisibility is bugged, it only works if you cast it on the same screen as an invisible creature, so you are better of just using glitterdust on it with a chance to blind it on top.
on later levels I supposed true seeing works (if nothing else you dont miss on mirror image.)
also blind sense from dragon disciple definitely works.

[ApathicAlpaca]

True seeing does not detect invisibility though, it works against Blur/Displacement/Mirror but not invis.
Thanks for clarifying you need to cast See Invis per screen, I wasnt aware of that. Then again, never noticed misses.

[Stink Bug]

That seems like a bug if See Invisibility only activates at casting, it's at odds with the description and the duration. At the least it should "tick" every round.

[rumpelstiltskin]

as i understand, there are 2 things - stealth and invisibility. if you don't have see invis or true seeing, you won't be able to detect invisible creatures at all, unless they are very close. with see invis you still need to roll perception against their stealth (and they probably still have +20 to stealth from invis). also, apparently see invis doesn't negate 50% miss chance due to concealment (unlike true seeing). i did have cases where i cast see invis on one char, then an invisible enemy would get revealed after a while (i think), and after that i was able to target them even with other chars.

[phadin]

Originally posted by ApathicAlpaca:

True seeing does not detect invisibility though, it works against Blur/Displacement/Mirror but not invis.
Thanks for clarifying you need to cast See Invis per screen, I wasnt aware of that. Then again, never noticed misses.

This is wrong. True Seeing will see through any magical attempts to obscure or hide, including invisibility. "The subject sees through normal and magical darkness, notices secret doors hidden by magic, sees the exact locations of creatures or objects under blur or displacement effects, sees invisible creatures or objects normally..."

What True Seeing will fail at is to detect creatures hidden by mundane means (Stealth skill checks)

[Jalmari H.]

invis/concealment stuff is bugged.

[corisai]

Originally posted by phadin:

This is wrong. True Seeing will see through any magical attempts to obscure or hide, including invisibility.

But it doesn't not help against etherial creatures or similar planar-shifting effects (like "Blink" spell).