Woljif Advanced Talents (Level 10)

[Dixon Sider]

I am trying to pick the advanced rogue talent that allows Woljif to deal strength damage on a sneak attack (IIRC) but it is not giving me an option to pick a rogue advanced talent on level up. When I level up to level 10 I get to pick my class (10 rogue), my skills, and my spells. I never get the option to pick my rogue advanced talent. Whats up with this?

[Dixon Sider]

Crippling Strike is the talent I am trying to pick

https://imgur.com/UNKOuoS

[jsaving]

The issue is, eldritch scoundrels only get to choose new talents every 4 levels. So even though you unlock the ability to select advanced talents at 10, you can't actually pick one until 12.

[Dixon Sider]

Oh, that is weird that it does not show that on the class progression tab. It shows me getting it at 10

https://imgur.com/33IR4jd

[ExcaliburV]

No it doesn't, it's just showing you that the advanced talents are unlocked. The little green symbols are the rogue talents, the purple one is just the "advanced talents unlocked" icon.

[Dixon Sider]

Originally posted by ExcaliburV:

No it doesn't, it's just showing you that the advanced talents are unlocked. The little green symbols are the rogue talents, the purple one is just the "advanced talents unlocked" icon.

Ohhhh okay. That makes sense. I thought I only got one advanced talent.

[ExcaliburV]

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

Ohhhh okay. That makes sense. I thought I only got one advanced talent.

Nope! From level 10 on rogues can take advanced talents as well as normal talents. It's just that Eldritch Scoundrels get fewer rogue talents than normal.

[dwarner]

Originally posted by ExcaliburV:

Originally posted by Dixon Sider:

Ohhhh okay. That makes sense. I thought I only got one advanced talent.

Nope! From level 10 on rogues can take advanced talents as well as normal talents. It's just that Eldritch Scoundrels get fewer rogue talents than normal.

And by far your best choice at level 12 is Double Debilitation and it's not close. Crippling Strike ends up not really doing enough since once you're hitting enough for it to matter stuff should already be dead.

[ExcaliburV]

Originally posted by dwarner:

And by far your best choice at level 12 is Double Debilitation and it's not close. Crippling Strike ends up not really doing enough since once you're hitting enough for it to matter stuff should already be dead.

I'm a fan of wearying strike, personally. Chipping at an enemy's con with your sneak attack damage is the most efficient way to make even the beefiest enemies dead fast.

[Trolleur_Durden]

Double debilitation is certainly great, but Crippling strike is simply awesome. It's a stacking and permanent -1 attack/damage per sneak attack landed on the enemy, without resistance or save, which matters quite a lot after only a couple of strikes. And against some enemies that are very resilient or hard to kill, reducing them to 0 strength is insta-kill.

[Dixon Sider]

Ya, the fact that double debilitation only lasts one round makes me less interested than a permanent -2 STR per hit. Cripling Strike only takes 2 swings total to equal infinite swings per round of double debilitation as far as accuracy debuff is concerned.

I am not picking this perk for the easy mobs. I want crippling strike for the enemies that take 2+ rounds to down.