Crusade Mode - Can you turn off?

[Tinball]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but my search skills must suck. Can you turn off this crusade mode once you've beaten the Grey Garrison? I'm not enjoying the army mechanics whatsoever and just want to play without it.

Thanks for the help.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Tinball:

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but my search skills must suck. Can you turn off this crusade mode once you've beaten the Grey Garrison? I'm not enjoying the army mechanics whatsoever and just want to play without it.

Thanks for the help.

You can set it to auto-mode. It will not be turned off, but you do not have to bother with it again. Keep in mind there are drawbacks.

[Tinball]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by Tinball:

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but my search skills must suck. Can you turn off this crusade mode once you've beaten the Grey Garrison? I'm not enjoying the army mechanics whatsoever and just want to play without it.

Thanks for the help.

You can set it to auto-mode. It will not be turned off, but you do not have to bother with it again. Keep in mind there are drawbacks.

Thanks!

[cookie]

they also added a difficulty option which i found a bit better than turning it on auto , you miss stuff on auto

[ApathicAlpaca]

Is there some list already of what stuff you miss with auto? Like, important stuff? (+DC gear etc.)

[Wraith]

yes but you miss alot of the good stuff it add like the RP aspect and loot.

[Edmund Greyfox]

If you turn it off you can't get the secret ending.

[Tinball]

I guess my only issue with turning it off is: Will I know what quests can't be completed? Or will I find out the hard way after performing steps in the quest and then finding out I can't complete because of Auto-Mode?

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by ApathicAlpaca:

Is there some list already of what stuff you miss with auto? Like, important stuff? (+DC gear etc.)

Not that I know of. But since you let the crusade management being managed by the automatic, you do not get in touch with it. Ergo, research projects and such which might get you certain items or endings are locked out.

[Wraith]

https://www.gamepretty.com/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous-all-restored-crusader-relics-guide/
This has a list.
Not sure if it all of them but they list out stuff.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by Tinball:

I guess my only issue with turning it off is: Will I know what quests can't be completed? Or will I find out the hard way after performing steps in the quest and then finding out I can't complete because of Auto-Mode?

Well if you are aiming for the secret ending it impossible if you turn on auto-mode.

You are at the mercy of the AI in auto mode as well.
If you are to good you will have to wait until the AI takes forts for you to advance.

[Tinball]

Thanks again for the quick replies and help!

[TheRandomGuy]

Originally posted by ApathicAlpaca:

Is there some list already of what stuff you miss with auto? Like, important stuff? (+DC gear etc.)

You miss out on certain relics that can be made into gear for your party.

You also miss out on the Swarm Mythic Path as well as it requires decrees to be done, and they can only be done in Crusade Mode.

Also Lich Path may take longer as it requires a building to be built, HOWEVER the AI Does eventually do it, you're just at the mercy of RNG as to WHEN it does it, could be in a day, could be a week, could be a month.

Other than those, you don't miss anything that would affect your gameplay. There are a few interesting tidbits of fluff in it like the Council Meetings that you'd miss, but they won't affect you or your party in terms of gameplay.

Also, Crusade Mode lets you build up settlements, which can be upgraded to build Teleportation Circles in them, reducing the amount of time you spend traveling all over the Map as you can just teleport your party to a fort close to where you want to go. The AI Does NOT build them in Auto Mode.

If you want to try and do Crusade Mode, set the management difficulty to story, and try to grab a good mage general for your army ASAP. A Mage General can basically destroy armies nearly by himself when leveled up and with proper spells. Also, build Doomstacks, using multiple armies is not efficient.

If you REALLY wanna go easy on Crusade Mode, go Lich. Lich Path lets you get free skeletons and zombies for every couple of units you kill in Crusade Mode, so you can start racking up quite an army pretty fast. Only downside is that you have a harder time getting living soldiers to fight for you as they don't like fighting shoulder-to-shoulder with zombies.

[Fuzzyballs01 ꦙ]

Originally posted by Tinball:

I guess my only issue with turning it off is: Will I know what quests can't be completed? Or will I find out the hard way after performing steps in the quest and then finding out I can't complete because of Auto-Mode?

it's mostly just "a story demon army is approaching, destroy it before it reaches Drezen" which give you no rewards

[Manic]

I intensely dislike the crusade mode, but I have found that without it on, moving around the map to do anything is a huge pain. You get no teleportation circles, and the auto-crusade will not build safe havens for you to rest in.

There is a mod I will look into using called Combat Relief, that skips the crusade battles and always gives you a win for them. As it is, all my current play throughs (I'm an altaholic) are probably going to get tossed because I have a very hard time getting around the map in Act 3 because of the stupid abyssal corruption mechanic.

[Liberty or Death]

I used Toybox to increase the number of soldiers in each army to ridiculous levels. That way I am able to destroy everything in 1 or 2 rounds.