Expanded arsenal Evocation + Stormbolts + Azata is OP

[Fluff]

https://i.imgur.com/iuidxo4.jpg

Currently it's 38 DC saving throw. With zippy magic enemies roll with disadvantage.
Can respec for >40 DC pretty easily. And can probably min-max for over 45 if not 50. With a quicken rod you can easily use it twice a turn, or any other spell for fun.

All stuned enemies in huge aoe each round is easy win for all party. Worked on all bosses that i checked, may be except Deskari, don't remember his saves but will try later. But that bug died fast anyway and this things helps during the whole game since you get it.

upd -
48 DC without extra buffs / debuffs:
https://i.imgur.com/KiQlGo8.png

upd --
55 DC - https://i.imgur.com/wq8x1kI.png - 10 mythic rank + All-skilled Superpower for estoc

final equipment for now https://i.imgur.com/SL3xUjg.jpg

Finished my 3rd run, last untill DLC.. this thing stuns everything.
Areelu finished in 1 turn. Deskari + Baphomet finished in 2 turns (picking up Crystals).
This run was a joke on Core. Easy Hard-Unfair possible.

Areelu :
https://i.imgur.com/tT3Q9CA.png
Deskari:
https://i.imgur.com/B6XJPoC.png
Baphomet:
https://i.imgur.com/OmPgLJh.png

[solthusx]

Slight correction: Favorable Magic is what forces enemies to roll saving throws with disadvantage. Zippy Magic is the power that makes single target spells hit an additional target.

[Fluff]

^ yeah that's the one. Idk why i wrote Zippy magic. Favorable Magic #1 superpower to pick

[solthusx]

Yup, also great for save or die/suck spells.

[Fluff]

Damn so far this thing owns everything, will face Deskari today in Iz, will check for him also. But everyone was stuned so far on Core+. And i forget to use witch's Hex for saving throws each single time even and other debuffs.

[I gurgle for Nurgle]

Wait. How is it only 140 damage?

[Fluff]

Originally posted by Alm:

Wait. How is it only 140 damage?

20d8, screen from 17 lvl, without any rods used.

It can hit for 400+ at 20 & rods, though damage is not the reason why you use this skill.
https://i.imgur.com/Hihsb2x.png

[Fluff]

Yeeeep, Deskari the hardest in the game to stun , but can be stuned also. Could raise higher with different items and 1 proper respec + a bit of debuff, but it worked even without all that in 2 round.

https://i.imgur.com/t090oB4.png

[Sador]

Originally posted by Tusk_Luv:

https://i.imgur.com/iuidxo4.jpg

Currently it's 38 DC saving throw. With zippy magic enemies roll with disadvantage.
Can respec for >40 DC pretty easily. And can probably min-max for over 45 if not 50. With a quicken rod you can easily use it twice a turn, or any other spell for fun.

All stuned enemies in huge aoe each round is easy win for all party. Worked on all bosses that i checked, may be except Deskari, don't remember his saves but will try later. But that bug died fast anyway and this things helps during the whole game since you get it.

Coming across things like this after reading an entire thread about how the enemies are too strong and their stats are too bloated is such an interesting experience.

Nice work though!

[Fluff]

Well it took me 3 playthroughs to go from complete newbie in pathfinder to ez Core-Hard difficulty with still keeping funny builds, not min maxed necessary, dat's a lot of time. But yeah, when you start to understand how the game works and which things are really good - the game becomes much more smooth and clean.

[Fluff]

Ok made a respec for even a better evocation focus this time:

https://i.imgur.com/KiQlGo8.png
48 DC fortitude now, enemies roll with disadvantage. Not counting other buffs and debuffs

Can't wait for DLC to try this party after 20 lvl.

[Fluff]

Oh well. Here comes 10 mythic lvl and All-skilled superpower - https://i.imgur.com/wq8x1kI.png - 55 DC and probably can be pushed higher with that superpower and some extra items, but that is already enough to easily Stun even Deskari on Core.

[Babbles]

Try it with an Arcane Trickster and Suprise Spells :)

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by Babbles:

Try it with an Arcane Trickster and Suprise Spells :)

Have you heard anything if expanded arsenal in its current iteration is unironically working as intended?
When i first read about it in some random post by mithrals i immedaitely assumed it has to be a bug but still no fix.

[Fluff]

There is no bug in expanded arsenal, unless you'r talking of some specific pairing with Arcane Trickster, it's working just as written.

Originally posted by Babbles:

Try it with an Arcane Trickster and Suprise Spells :)

I'm not interested in that class. But if there is no-bug-abusing thing that works there with this to an even better extend - then it can be an even better CC!

[CHAO$$$]

This is the exact wording on the feat:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2622487742

"another school of magic"
^this can easily be interpreted as either "a single other school (highest one applies)" or "any other school". Note that it also doesnt specifically say "any other school" or "all other schools"

Either way between it not working if you pick spell focus in that particular school and it completely breaking any semblance of difficulty this meme game could have had after mythic 3... in its current iteration its one of the worst designed game features i have ever seen.

Tied with Assassin in a game where everyone and their mother is poison immune and just barely left in the dust by deadfires truly big brain turn-based mode and incredibly well thought-out armor system.