Drow/Dark Elves

[hexentwerk]

Are they gonna be playable in this or is there no hope for the dwellers of the underdark? :( Don't know how much different pathfinder is in that regard

[Solo Cat Collector]

the pathfinder counterpart is pretty much the same, but no they are not playable. The closest you get are Dhampirs.

[Sambonizer]

That said, I'm pretty sure that there's a mod for them in Kingmaker so it ought to be possible to add them in Wrath.

[Immortal Reaver]

Drow in Pathfinder are different in Pathfinder than in DnD. You meet few in game, but they are not playable, If you do quest involving them you will realize why it would be hard to justify MC being one.

Outside of Darklands they are basicaly like witch during Spanish Inquistion, just recognizable at first look so easier to hunt, so if MC was drow, Kyonin would basicaly declare war againts crusaders.

[Drake]

Drow are definitely a playable race. You get everything you need in the inner sea race book to play them.
The problem is that playing them outside of the darklands is very difficult. First drow don't like to show themselves, they want to remain in the dark. Then, pretty much everyone will kill a drow on sight, because they're pretty much chaotic evil psychopaths on a high degree (I'm pretty sure it's requirement to make a drow character).
So yes they're playable, just not in every campaign, and certainly not this one.

[hexentwerk]

Damn that's a pity. I do usually play a weird mix of CE and NE so I'd fit right in. nwn2 had playable drow, bg3 as well as I've read, though.
Just seems odd this game is going to have liches and swarms and demons for the PC which most wouldn't be happy to have as neighbours or friends either. I guess the drow fans will just have to be happy with an elf with the iconic dark grey/purple skin which atleast was an option in kingmaker too

[PerfectLife]

Originally posted by Mordlust:

Damn that's a pity. I do usually play a weird mix of CE and NE so I'd fit right in. nwn2 had playable drow, bg3 as well as I've read, though.
Just seems odd this game is going to have liches and swarms and demons for the PC which most wouldn't be happy to have as neighbours or friends either. I guess the drow fans will just have to be happy with an elf with the iconic dark grey/purple skin which atleast was an option in kingmaker too

What? No they just have to push the "add drow" button in the dev tools and we could play drow, they're just too lazy.

lol

[Immortal Reaver]

Originally posted by Mordlust:

Damn that's a pity. I do usually play a weird mix of CE and NE so I'd fit right in. nwn2 had playable drow, bg3 as well as I've read, though.
Just seems odd this game is going to have liches and swarms and demons for the PC which most wouldn't be happy to have as neighbours or friends either. I guess the drow fans will just have to be happy with an elf with the iconic dark grey/purple skin which atleast was an option in kingmaker too

Drows have it worse. Liches, Swarms or Devils are great neighbours to Kyonin if compared to Drows. Actually they would ally with these if it meant eradication of Drows. It is propaganda (with both truth and lies) machine in works to create most hatred as possible for elves.

[Drake]

Originally posted by PerfectLife:

Originally posted by Mordlust:

Damn that's a pity. I do usually play a weird mix of CE and NE so I'd fit right in. nwn2 had playable drow, bg3 as well as I've read, though.
Just seems odd this game is going to have liches and swarms and demons for the PC which most wouldn't be happy to have as neighbours or friends either. I guess the drow fans will just have to be happy with an elf with the iconic dark grey/purple skin which atleast was an option in kingmaker too

What? No they just have to push the "add drow" button in the dev tools and we could play drow, they're just too lazy.

lol

It's not lazyness, it's an rpg, there is a thing called RP in there. Playing a drow in that campaign would break the roleplay. The roleplay doesn't serve the rules, the rules are there to serve as bones to hold the roleplay. If the roleplay says there is an issue, then the rules have to bend, not the otherway around.

A main char drow there makes no sense. Drows in pathfinder as playable character only make sense in 2 types of campaigns, either they're in the darklands, or it's an intrigue/conspiracy/horror/thriller with a lot of cloak and dagger and the players try to never show themselves and play the villains. Otherwise you're acting against the lore and you're homebrewing and that's not golarion lore anymore.

[hexentwerk]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by PerfectLife:

What? No they just have to push the "add drow" button in the dev tools and we could play drow, they're just too lazy.

lol

It's not lazyness, it's an rpg, there is a thing called RP in there. Playing a drow in that campaign would break the roleplay. The roleplay doesn't serve the rules, the rules are there to serve as bones to hold the roleplay. If the roleplay says there is an issue, then the rules have to bend, not the otherway around.

A main char drow there makes no sense. Drows in pathfinder as playable character only make sense in 2 types of campaigns, either they're in the darklands, or it's an intrigue/conspiracy/horror/thriller with a lot of cloak and dagger and the players try to never show themselves and play the villains. Otherwise you're acting against the lore and you're homebrewing and that's not golarion lore anymore.

In divinity original sin 2 you were able to play as an undead wearing a disguise, taking it off would make everyone attack you. A disguised drow PC, wearing a face covering mask or hood, maybe ? :) There's a lot of things to take advantage of in a demon apocalypse yknow

[PerfectLife]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by PerfectLife:

What? No they just have to push the "add drow" button in the dev tools and we could play drow, they're just too lazy.

lol

It's not lazyness, it's an rpg, there is a thing called RP in there. Playing a drow in that campaign would break the roleplay. The roleplay doesn't serve the rules, the rules are there to serve as bones to hold the roleplay. If the roleplay says there is an issue, then the rules have to bend, not the otherway around.

A main char drow there makes no sense. Drows in pathfinder as playable character only make sense in 2 types of campaigns, either they're in the darklands, or it's an intrigue/conspiracy/horror/thriller with a lot of cloak and dagger and the players try to never show themselves and play the villains. Otherwise you're acting against the lore and you're homebrewing and that's not golarion lore anymore.

Did you really just read an obvious joke as serious to the point you needed two paragraphs to argue against it or are you just a jerk?

[Drake]

Originally posted by PerfectLife:

Originally posted by Drake:

It's not lazyness, it's an rpg, there is a thing called RP in there. Playing a drow in that campaign would break the roleplay. The roleplay doesn't serve the rules, the rules are there to serve as bones to hold the roleplay. If the roleplay says there is an issue, then the rules have to bend, not the otherway around.

A main char drow there makes no sense. Drows in pathfinder as playable character only make sense in 2 types of campaigns, either they're in the darklands, or it's an intrigue/conspiracy/horror/thriller with a lot of cloak and dagger and the players try to never show themselves and play the villains. Otherwise you're acting against the lore and you're homebrewing and that's not golarion lore anymore.

Did you really just read an obvious joke as serious to the point you needed two paragraphs to argue against it or are you just a jerk?

I don't know, have you seen some of the posts lately on steam ? there is no indication that you're not joking. With all the neg posters and the forum warriors, it's becoming hard to see who's joking and who's serious.

[derricks7]

Given the (silly but passionately debated) Drow "racism" controversy that's swept D&D I doubt Paizo would want Owlcat including Drow. They also just don't serve the same role in Golarion that they do in Faerun.

[hexentwerk]

Originally posted by derricks7:

Given the (silly but passionately debated) Drow "racism" controversy that's swept D&D I doubt Paizo would want Owlcat including Drow. They also just don't serve the same role in Golarion that they do in Faerun.

How can people possibly be so bored to get offended over such trivial, fictive matters I wonder. Meanwhile WH40k, WH fantasy/AOS, tolkien, even Fallout and especially the elder scrolls, and pretty much all fictive fantasy worlds I can think of right now are hiding, hoping not to be noticed lol

[Immortal Reaver]

Originally posted by Mordlust:

How can people possibly be so bored to get offended over such trivial, fictive matters I wonder. Meanwhile WH40k, WH fantasy/AOS, tolkien, even Fallout and especially the elder scrolls, and pretty much all fictive fantasy worlds I can think of right now are hiding, hoping not to be noticed lol

Those people associate Orcs in DnD with blacks in America.

[Natural Love]

Originally posted by Drake:

Originally posted by PerfectLife:

What? No they just have to push the "add drow" button in the dev tools and we could play drow, they're just too lazy.

lol

It's not lazyness, it's an rpg, there is a thing called RP in there. Playing a drow in that campaign would break the roleplay. The roleplay doesn't serve the rules, the rules are there to serve as bones to hold the roleplay. If the roleplay says there is an issue, then the rules have to bend, not the otherway around.

A main char drow there makes no sense. Drows in pathfinder as playable character only make sense in 2 types of campaigns, either they're in the darklands, or it's an intrigue/conspiracy/horror/thriller with a lot of cloak and dagger and the players try to never show themselves and play the villains. Otherwise you're acting against the lore and you're homebrewing and that's not golarion lore anymore.

People which don’t share my opinion=trolls