Sword Saint - Dagger concept

[thrythlind]

I'm considering doing a dagger-focused sword-saint, the idea of a dagger focused warrior is interesting and I'm not really interested in two-weapon fighting. But from what I'm looking at sword-saint involves critical damage a lot and I'm worried I'll hit the threshold of suboptimal where it begins to undermine the fun of the concept.

[Tourak]

I don't know why you would want to go dagger on a Sword Saint, but if you want to do high damage with a dagger, the knife master archetype of rogue would be a good fit. They deal d8 SA with daggers instead of d6.

[Lord_WC]

Keep all 3 elemental damages on the dagger and get elemental barrage from mythic 1 and then the dagger will do just fine damage (d4 +3d6 +mythic level*1.5d6)

[Thrax]

Originally posted by thrythlind:

I'm considering doing a dagger-focused sword-saint, the idea of a dagger focused warrior is interesting and I'm not really interested in two-weapon fighting. But from what I'm looking at sword-saint involves critical damage a lot and I'm worried I'll hit the threshold of suboptimal where it begins to undermine the fun of the concept.

there are several sets of daggers, most of them working off each other or strongly utalizing both.

Kukri's are almost the same but better critical, far less common.

Really just depends on the difficulty and party composition. Currently it has some really radical difficulty spikes. Table top there are plenty of single hand dagger builds I could think of, but I doubt you will find too much support.

[Teddy]

It's not called "Dagger Saint".

[thrythlind]

Originally posted by Tourak:

I don't know why you would want to go dagger on a Sword Saint, but if you want to do high damage with a dagger, the knife master archetype of rogue would be a good fit. They deal d8 SA with daggers instead of d6.

Considering it, but the idea of a bit of magic with dagger fighting is interesting too.

I'm aware this is sub-optimal, I'm worried whether it will be so suboptimal that it's not fun to play.

[thrythlind]

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

Keep all 3 elemental damages on the dagger and get elemental barrage from mythic 1 and then the dagger will do just fine damage (d4 +3d6 +mythic level*1.5d6)

Thanks, you can get to where arcane pool triggers multiple enchantments in one go then?

Cool.

[Lord_WC]

Originally posted by thrythlind:

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

Keep all 3 elemental damages on the dagger and get elemental barrage from mythic 1 and then the dagger will do just fine damage (d4 +3d6 +mythic level*1.5d6)

Thanks, you can get to where arcane pool triggers multiple enchantments in one go then?

Cool.

Why wouldn't you? If you are lazy you also can pick up greater enduring spells and enduring blade or whatever it's called so they last 24h.

[thrythlind]

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

Why wouldn't you? If you are lazy you also can pick up greater enduring spells and enduring blade or whatever it's called so they last 24h.

It is tempting... being able to give the whole party 24-hour Haste on one spellcast in Mask of the Betrayer was nice.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

Originally posted by thrythlind:

Thanks, you can get to where arcane pool triggers multiple enchantments in one go then?

Cool.

Why wouldn't you? If you are lazy you also can pick up greater enduring spells and enduring blade or whatever it's called so they last 24h.

Wait, enduring spells applies to weapon enchantment? Do you know for sure?

[VidyaGamez]

Originally posted by Teddy:

It's not called "Dagger Saint".

Sword saint infusing the power of the ocean into my trident.

[Viper]

I would say Rogues are a better class if you want to use daggers.

[Lord_WC]

Originally posted by Midnight:

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

Why wouldn't you? If you are lazy you also can pick up greater enduring spells and enduring blade or whatever it's called so they last 24h.

Wait, enduring spells applies to weapon enchantment? Do you know for sure?

It was working yesterday.

[Lord_WC]

Originally posted by Viper:

I would say Rogues are a better class if you want to use daggers.

Rouges are obsolete just as non-instinctual warrior barbarians sadly.

[Viper]

Originally posted by Lord_WC:

Originally posted by Viper:

I would say Rogues are a better class if you want to use daggers.

Rouges are obsolete just as non-instinctual warrior barbarians sadly.

No such thing as obsolete. I don't min/max. There is no need to.

[Bishi]

Warpriest can use a dagger or any other "bad" weapon effectively.