greater carnivorous crystal strategy?

[Jekko]

can't think of a way around these 40 DC saves every round

[barbecue7]

Same, it's the only enemy I've had to just leave. Hopefully it doesn't drop anything important. It's not just the mandatory nat 20 to not perma stun, it's ac is the same. Plus it's immune to nearly everything, and just to troll it has improved evasion. Not sure how a lump of crystal attached to the floor can dodge lightning, but sure.

[Mr Fred]

You guys have all caster parties that never buff or what? Any martial class properly buffed wont have any issues at all.

[barbecue7]

What buff are you using that can let your party tank DC 49 fort saves and hit 59 AC that's almost all natural armor? I'm playing a Paladin/Angel with every buff able to be boosted to 24 hrs running. Even if one character rolled a nat 20 and wasn't perma stunned, that thing just ate spells. It climbed out of the freaking top tier pit spell.

[Jekko]

Originally posted by barbecue7:

What buff are you using that can let your party tank DC 49 fort saves and hit 59 AC that's almost all natural armor? I'm playing a Paladin/Angel with every buff able to be boosted to 24 hrs running. Even if one character rolled a nat 20 and wasn't perma stunned, that thing just ate spells. It climbed out of the freaking top tier pit spell.

managed in the end with a combination of cleric holy aura and wizard polar ray. they have only 1 dex so polar ray one shots them

[elationtheory]

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

You guys have all caster parties that never buff or what? Any martial class properly buffed wont have any issues at all.

lol are you playing on story mode or something? even with mass bear stats, bard song, every possible fort buff/saves i could muster, i could barely get out of the passage.

1 crystal isn't so bad. try meeting 3 all taking turns using hum. it's permastun for the entire party.

[CHAO$$$]

crystals are really really slow - persistent aoe damage works great (well placed blade barrier - Kineticist circles and so on) before starting combat.

[Mr Fred]

Originally posted by elationtheory:

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

You guys have all caster parties that never buff or what? Any martial class properly buffed wont have any issues at all.

lol are you playing on story mode or something? even with mass bear stats, bard song, every possible fort buff/saves i could muster, i could barely get out of the passage.

1 crystal isn't so bad. try meeting 3 all taking turns using hum. it's permastun for the entire party.

Core, i kinda feel bad for you if you cant grasp how a class with strong fort save decent gear and buff would have any issues. I beat the game and the only 2 fights I had to lower the difficulty in the whole game were the playful darkness and Sosiel solo arena fight in act 4 as he was underlevel.

[Winger]

Originally posted by Sotek Winsss:

can't think of a way around these 40 DC saves every round

Acid Pit. No reflex save, no acid resistance. At least on Core.

[Sentient Roomba]

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

Originally posted by elationtheory:

lol are you playing on story mode or something? even with mass bear stats, bard song, every possible fort buff/saves i could muster, i could barely get out of the passage.

1 crystal isn't so bad. try meeting 3 all taking turns using hum. it's permastun for the entire party.

Core, i kinda feel bad for you if you cant grasp how a class with strong fort save decent gear and buff would have any issues. I beat the game and the only 2 fights I had to lower the difficulty in the whole game were the playful darkness and Sosiel solo arena fight in act 4 as he was underlevel.

nice try, there's not a chance in hell your entire party has enough fort save to beat 3 consecutive 40+ DC rolls every round.

[Hex: Onii-Chan]

Originally posted by Mr Fred:

Originally posted by elationtheory:

lol are you playing on story mode or something? even with mass bear stats, bard song, every possible fort buff/saves i could muster, i could barely get out of the passage.

1 crystal isn't so bad. try meeting 3 all taking turns using hum. it's permastun for the entire party.

Core, i kinda feel bad for you if you cant grasp how a class with strong fort save decent gear and buff would have any issues. I beat the game and the only 2 fights I had to lower the difficulty in the whole game were the playful darkness and Sosiel solo arena fight in act 4 as he was underlevel.

Nope, still bs. My Kinetic Knight with 34 Con has a fortitude safe of 31. And that's not enough to reliably beat the DC40. Sure, I can put luck on her from Ember and then spam Cackle for a few minutes to make it last long, but even with this gameplay-abuse, she deals reduced damage to them despite having Ascended Element, meaning she can barely chunk through them before they randomly petrify somebody else.

The DC is supposed to be 22 and the save only 1 in 24 hours. They are busted because somebody didn't pay attention.

They *are* doable in real-time, because of how it works, but it's not a fun experience nor does it feel challenging. You just hope to luck out. I have no clue how one would go about doing them on Hard / Unfair. Probably just summon a ton of golems / undead and send one character in to trigger them while the rest is chilling 2 postal codes away.

[Yograin]

Web x 5 and shoot them with bows.

[Serious Squirrel]

Snipe from outside aoe range

[Alixtria]

Originally posted by Serious Squirrel 🍆:

Snipe from outside aoe range

Great advice when they are ambush predators /s

[hilburnashua]

Originally posted by Alixtria:

Originally posted by Serious Squirrel 🍆:

Snipe from outside aoe range

Great advice when they are ambush predators /s

Way to necro a thread almost 18 months old.
But the tactic works since you can send one person down the hall that has high fort saves and have the rest hang back and used ranged attacks.

[Janthis]

The Ice Body spell makes you immune to their stun aura, it's a high level wizard spell and I also had a ring (or gloves, or bracers or something) that let me cast it. It's the most reliable way I found to fight them. Also lower the difficulty, because honestly they are BS and broken as well.