Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Clown Fiesta Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:17am
Is woliff just a better camellia? Minor spoilers warning
Title, ever since i met woliff, i just haven't been using camellia. Like if i want heals i got the cleric and the oracle for it, if I want damage i got my sorcerer, wangulag and the succubus.

woliff out damages camellia in ever way, i just don't see why i would take camellia when woliff exists.
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Tanchyon Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:19am 
So far this has been my experience too... If you need a cleric Daeran is much better.
Icyage Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:22am 
you are right. he does crazy damage and only gets better ^^
camellia seems very meh
THE AVERAGE Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:23am 
Woljiff is a lot better than Camellia, unless you do not bring Ember. Hexes are super powerful (Slumber is great too), but in terms of combat *damage*, Woljiff is the best party member by far. Only my archer focused Wenduag can compete.

Also, uh...you're kind of forced to take Camellia at one point for a while through the game if you want someone to find traps and open locks. :(
Last edited by THE AVERAGE; Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:24am
Rudel Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:25am 
I don't want to spoil anything but if you want to settle on a party Woliff takes some special arrangements due to story progression
Irish-Hazard Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:51am 
he he he, ohhh boy
eRe4s3r Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:56am 
I had my focus on him exactly until I remembered that Owlcat loves to troll us with the rogues. And turns out, they did it again in this ;)
JonWoo Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:56am 
Is he better at rogue things than she is? Definitely. Does Sosiel make a better cleric? Certainly. Does Ember make a better witch? I'd say yes. She's not better than anyone at what it is they do but she's better at doing it all than they are.

If you want a jack of all trades in your party she's great to have around. If you don't, well drop her crazy ass at camp and just give her sideways glances every time you leave with the rest of your party.
B Unit Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:58am 
Shes more of a tank with spellcasting ability than a damage dealer. She started shining for me around level 10 or so.
Mr Fred Sep 11, 2021 @ 1:00am 
Camelia is a better yandere and better at blood orgy in general.
Insanity_184 Sep 11, 2021 @ 1:09am 
I like Camilla more. Builder to do massive crits while buffing for 24h with the mythic ability’s.

Here’s the thing about our rouge though…is he the best at anything? Physical damage my dual hand axe rouge spider lady’s got him beat. Magic damage I got a pyromaniac elf and a fox that can do that? CC? the elf summons the fox uses illusions. Buffs camillas better and if she wasn’t main is cleric and the fox’s got the rest.

Is woljiff good yes but I feel like he suffers from a jack of all trades master of none issue and if in a balanced party Camilla makes the better choice.
in this game buffs>>>>brute dmg and nobody beat carmellia with her 24hs buffs
Widget Sep 11, 2021 @ 1:13am 
you can turn cami into an assassin if you want one of those

i got her to spirit hunter 5 then poof insta assasin just keep upping her sneak to 5 and easy street

now that being said if you actually stick to the thief line woljif is better for one reason and one reason alone he's set up perfectly to become an arcane trickster meaning long range sneak attacks and magic sneak attacks oh my!
Yong용 Sep 11, 2021 @ 1:36am 
Camellias (default build) damage takes a bit to come online because she needs a couple of feats first, but once she has those, she can dish out a lot of damage. I think her main strengths are that she is a lot more versatile due to hexes and buffs and she has a lot higher ac than woljif.
Widget Sep 11, 2021 @ 2:09am 
Arcane armour trianing and light armour training and then woljif is on par in terms of ac with cami, cami might just slightly beat him, but thats cause of the buckler.
using armor on dex characters is almost useless, just use archmage armor training + a mage armor potion
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Date Posted: Sep 11, 2021 @ 12:17am
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