Can't even kill Hosilla

[Naxterra]

As the title says, I can't kill Hosilla, even with cheats!.

Difficulty is Unfair but it is not supposed to be impossible. My group is just level 2, and that mob is hitting 132 damage. How the hell I am supposed to beat it? Even with cheats it is not dying. Only thing that causes damage is my crappy magics, which hits for 6-7 (magic missile, burning hands) and it hits for 132!

Lovely logic. Good job Owlcat!

[dulany67]

Messaggio originale di Naxterra:

I wanna complete it at its hardest but that is beyond Unfair ...

Why? Challenge? Well. the challenge is kicking your ass. Perhaps Hard is the appropriate level of challenge for you.

[Clown Fiesta]

Messaggio originale di Wraith:

Messaggio originale di Clown Fiesta:

I mean the devs can easy make an impossible difficulty where all enemy 1 shots you.

they already did.
it the difficulty of unfair right now.
Alot of enemy will straight up one shot you.

For unfair my tactic is actually any form of CC because you want the enemy to not be able to do anything because of their stat bloat.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH that's so stupid, why the hell would anyone wants to play on unfair then?

with games like dark souls at least if your reflex is good enough you can beat it pretty smoothly. But in cRPGs like this game everything is a stat check.

[Robotnik]

Messaggio originale di Naxterra:

Messaggio originale di Athos Atreides:

You do realize this is a D20 RNG system right? I don't think there's any way around making things scale stupidly for a difficulty called "unfair" since it's an RPG.

Explain to me, how a Level 6 Inq can do 132 damage? Let's say it is doing a crit, but its normal damage is 70ish. It is level 6 vs level 2 group.

How can a level 6 do 132 damage? Play on unfair and look at their stats. They probably have 10 extra feats with a maxed stats and every buff or something. Unfair is literally "Everything is overtuned so the game is Unfair".

Messaggio originale di Roadie:

Messaggio originale di Athos Atreides:

You do realize this is a D20 RNG system right? I don't think there's any way around making things scale stupidly for a difficulty called "unfair" since it's an RPG.

There are ways to have difficulty without just tilting the RNG. Again, that's why I mentioned XCOM, where the enemies work with each other, use cover, etc. In this game all the enemies are dumb enough to run straight into pits and AOE effects, blast themselves and each other with AOE effects, endlessly follow your characters in circles around tables, and all sorts of other issues.

None of these CRPGs have any cover, teamwortk, etc. Divinity orignal sin had none of that either. XCOM has tons of RNG what are you talking about?

[elbentzo]

Messaggio originale di Naxterra:

Messaggio originale di Clown Fiesta:

why the ♥♥♥♥ would you play on unfair and expect to do well?

you are literally playing on one of the hardest difficulties, it's not rocket science to expect things to be..........................

HARD (or unfair in this case). Just stick to normal and enjoy the game.

I wanna complete it at its hardest but that is beyond Unfair, that is my problem. I wanna micro manage everything but my group is level 2 and I am getting hit for 132 damage by a level 6 Inquisitor, which shouldn't be even possible.

Gotta love a person who sets difficulty to max and goes to cry on the internet that the game is hard.

Let go of your ego. Unfair is not for you. You're not good enough. If you're willing to spend hours over builds, trying to find exploits that have at least some chance of working, and then spend hours testing them and winning - then unfair is what you need. If not, just swallow your pride, set the difficulty to whatever is right for your level, your knowledge of the rules and exploits, and your patience and willingness to try again and again, and play the game.

No one owes you anything. You're not entitled to beating the game on unfair. It's not Owlcats' fault that you can't do it. Jesus christ, some people.

[Clown Fiesta]

Messaggio originale di Athos Atreides:

None of these CRPGs have any cover, teamwortk, etc. Divinity orignal sin had none of that either. XCOM has tons of RNG what are you talking about?

lmao what? xcom enemies work in conjunction with each other to make the fights hard. The berserkers charge you while the sectoids try to mind control you etc. And there definitely ARE covers everywhere lmao.

how high are you?

[Naxterra]

Messaggio originale di elbentzo:

Messaggio originale di Naxterra:

I wanna complete it at its hardest but that is beyond Unfair, that is my problem. I wanna micro manage everything but my group is level 2 and I am getting hit for 132 damage by a level 6 Inquisitor, which shouldn't be even possible.

Gotta love a person who sets difficulty to max and goes to cry on the internet that the game is hard.

Let go of your ego. Unfair is not for you. You're not good enough. If you're willing to spend hours over builds, trying to find exploits that have at least some chance of working, and then spend hours testing them and winning - then unfair is what you need. If not, just swallow your pride, set the difficulty to whatever is right for your level, your knowledge of the rules and exploits, and your patience and willingness to try again and again, and play the game.

No one owes you anything. You're not entitled to beating the game on unfair. It's not Owlcats' fault that you can't do it. Jesus christ, some people.

I am not crying or it is about my ego. Explain to me carefully. My group is level 2, yes level 2, and boss is level 6, and it is doing 132 critical damage and 70ish normal damage on one hit.

You cannot find that in rulebooks, nor in normal rolls. Not even 20 20 20 can do that because a normal person cannot do 20 20 20 in a roll.

[mbradtke]

do yourself a favor and play something else than unfair, unfair is not meant by any means to be played on a first playthrough, it is not like in other games where u can complete the game on hardest difficulty with some difficulties, unfair is for masochist and people who want to exploit everything out of the game possible, it is no fun mode and a very special case

[Wraith]

Messaggio originale di mbradtke:

do yourself a favor and play something else than unfair, unfair is not meant by any means to be played on a first playthrough, it is not like in other games where u can complete the game on hardest difficulty with some difficulties, unfair is for masochist and people who want to exploit everything out of the game possible, it is no fun mode and a very special case

agree.
OP I HIGHLY recommend you don't do unfair.
The achievement is still broken anyway.
So even if you did reach the end your only gonna get sand thrown in your face like I did.

[JustSmile]

Messaggio originale di Naxterra:

I am not crying or it is about my ego. Explain to me carefully. My group is level 2, yes level 2, and boss is level 6, and it is doing 132 critical damage and 70ish normal damage on one hit.

You cannot find that in rulebooks, nor in normal rolls. Not even 20 20 20 can do that because a normal person cannot do 20 20 20 in a roll.

Unfair literally spells out it is for Pathfinder veterans, who know the system inside and out, with masochistic tendencies. Given that your response to a hard-hitter is to retreat to a forum and complain about difficulty, you neither know the system very well nor find pleasure in finding loopholes and exploits to defeat unfair odds.

The game literally tells you in HUGE RED LETTERS "this is not for you" and your response is to complain and demand it's made easier.



As for how to defeat her: your first mistake was allowing her to touch you.

[Hidden Gunman]

Messaggio originale di Naxterra:

Messaggio originale di Clown Fiesta:

why the ♥♥♥♥ would you play on unfair and expect to do well?

you are literally playing on one of the hardest difficulties, it's not rocket science to expect things to be..........................

HARD (or unfair in this case). Just stick to normal and enjoy the game.

I wanna complete it at its hardest but that is beyond Unfair, that is my problem. I wanna micro manage everything but my group is level 2 and I am getting hit for 132 damage by a level 6 Inquisitor, which shouldn't be even possible.

I'm sympathetic, but there is a slight flaw in your logic...You WANT to complete the game at its' hardest, and obviously can't, at the moment. That isn't the games fault, the devs have obviously created a challenge that is beyond you at the moment.

[atm]

Not playing on unfair myself, but I am with the OP on this. I beat Kingmaker on Unfair, and hated every second of the first half of the run - they are giving you encounters to beat that you just cannot possibly have the tools to deal with, at that early stage of the game. It is commonly said that the first encounter in Jamandi's mansion was the hardest in the entire game on Unfair, and that is both completely true and utterly stupid. You would expect the hardest to be the last, not the first.

[Caelestus]

Imagine telling the DM to make the enemy have unfair stats, then turn around and complain... Stick with neutral stats and enjoy the game.

[June Fox]

To be fair, the early game on Unfair in WotR is way overtuned at the moment. And I'm saying that having completed an Unfair run in Kingmaker. The game throws stuff at you with incredibly high AC/AB levels right of the bat and you simply don't have the tools to deal with it at those early levels. Hosilla, for example, you pretty much have to kite around and shoot. And you also need to reset the fight multiple times to deal with the adds she summons one by one.

[Wraith]

Messaggio originale di atm:

Not playing on unfair myself, but I am with the OP on this. I beat Kingmaker on Unfair, and hated every second of the first half of the run - they are giving you encounters to beat that you just cannot possibly have the tools to deal with, at that early stage of the game. It is commonly said that the first encounter in Jamandi's mansion was the hardest in the entire game on Unfair, and that is both completely true and utterly stupid. You would expect the hardest to be the last, not the first.

The same actually applies here to I had way harder encounters then the final boss of this game in unfair

[Miskatonic]

Imagine actually cheating and still managing to lose