Best classes according to neoseeker

[Dao of Yakitori]

Grenadier S- Nothing much changed from Kingmaker. It’s still a base class+, and and the demand for the unresistable touch elemental damage it offers is at an all-time high.
Preservationist S Quite good. You don’t sacrifice anything of value and get summons for free out of it. Getting some fodder on top of the usual Alchemist kit is great (even better with a bit of investment).
Vivisectionist S- Just about as great at the whole tanking and bashing things over the head thing as ever. Still doesn’t care too much about staying pure, but if you are going to dip, Mutation Warrior has him beaten.
Instinctual Warrior SS Pretty much a Monk with another flavour and fit for other alignments with his own set of benefits (especially when you're going for more than just a dip).
Primalist S- The actual bloodrager. Gets everything and then gets Barb Rage powers too. The class exists to drive home the point that Barbs are obsolete.
Crusader S The sole reason for the high mark is they get weapon specialization which is way harder to get than just spending a Mythic Feat to regain a domain.
Ecclesitheurge S- Same as in Pathfinder: Kingmaker. Blessing of the Faithful is nice to have; Bonded Item is awesome; Domain Mastery is nice. There’s nothing to complain about and armour is hardly a sacrifice. The best caster Cleric out there.
Mutation Warrior S+ All you could want from your Fighter specialization. Amazing 4 or 5 Level dip for Mutagen, Weapon Specialization, and Weapon Training (at Level 5). Not too shabby as a pure class either (Grand Mutagen's +6AC is nothing to scoff at and you get an extra critical multiplier at Level 20).
Divine Hound S- The best Hunter subclass. Judgements are awesome, Hunter has good spells to work for and your animal pool is "restricted" to the best option available. Just go exactly 16 levels here and get yourself some damage from Mutation Warrior.
Sanctified Slayer S- One of the best 4 level dips in the game. Get Study (stacks with Slayer), Solo Tactics and a d6 sneak for good measure. If only it also got advanced talents.
Sohei S Solid both as a 1, 6, and 11. Does work with Fighter Weapon Training (arguably the best application of the class, and why the 1 level dip is a thing).
Court Poet S- Bonuses on the casting stats are not easy to come by. Plus it adds some Armour Class and doesn’t brick casting. All in all, it’s the best Skald subclass.
Sage Sorcerer S INT sorcerer. Does the same thing the Arcane bloodline does (the sole reason to keep Sorcerer reasonably pure).
Exploiter Wizard S- Pretty much Arcanist with more spells per day, but without the spontaneous casting of selected spells. All that means in practice is we can toss away useless spells and fuel the good ones. It makes so much more sense on a wizard.
Elemental Specialist S Convert your spells from level 1 at no cost to the tempo. Wow. This a subclass and a half.

Source[www.neoseeker.com]

[Foolswalkin]

Having not played Kingmaker myself, it seems like they took what they already knew about Kingmaker (which appears considerable) and modified it for how the classes changed. That’s fine, but the mythic paths change the value of a bunch of options for me away from normal pathfinder. Particularly, merging a mythic path spellbook into a spontaneous caster has a ton of value for me, and I’m not sure that I think Domains are the end all be all while Revelations are naff.

I’m also not sure why weapon specialization is valued as highly as it appears to be.

[Kevin905niveK]

Hmm thats odd i hated playing my grenedier and instead went an oracle (divine herbalist) with flame mystery and find it way more over powered. But i am also a complete noob when it comes to pathfinder and most likely messed up my grenedier build.

[cjwasright]

Is dipping into two levels of Student of War worth it for a wizard that specialzies in touch ac spells? The extra AC come at a cost of needing to take 3 useless (for a caster at least) feats.

[Lightning]

Postat inițial de NihilVerum:

Can't say they're wrong about alchemists. Force Bombs are insane, doubly so in an environment where everything is normally resistant to regular elemental damage.

I think Barbarians with Rage are best against boss fights though imo, crazy rage damage i think i saw me hit a 125 or so a couple times and that's each attack round not total and i'm only level 11 atm

[Mithrals]

The sword saint is maybe (well see) the strongest archtype atm.
Not seeing that on the list makes me doubt. but most of the classes mentioned are not too shabby so its ok i guess.

[revan1229]

Arcane Trickster has incredible potential (as usual). Sneak Attack works on mythic ray-type spells, but if it also works on mythic AOE spells with its capstone....

I'm playing an Elemental Specialist now, and I agree that it is very good combined with Ascendant Element.

[wendigo211]

Postat inițial de Mithrals:

The sword saint is maybe (well see) the strongest archtype atm.
Not seeing that on the list makes me doubt. but most of the classes mentioned are not too shabby so its ok i guess.

I agree Sword Saint probably still is the strongest pure class.

Purifier with the pranked curse (grants mirror image), is also a pretty good choice for a melee divine caster. Although maybe not as good as the Crusader with Loremaster.

I'm finding Kinetic Knight pretty valuable in my current unfair run (multiclassed with Monk and Eldritch Scoundrel for some sneak attack, AC and arcane buffs), the energy blades target touch AC, and I can get a mythic feat to remove resistance to that element. Hopefully it works with mythic Shatter Defenses so I end up spamming flat footed touch attacks against my enemies (probably still some enemies on unfair I'll have a hard time hitting). The reason I suggested Knight over the other specs is that the blade works like a real weapon with them, I tried some of the other specs, but having to gather power before attacking messed up a lot of stuff (e.g. charge), and the blade is the best kinetic blast for raw single target DPS.

That said, any class that can perform high damage touch attacks and/or ignore dex AC is pretty valuable on the higher difficulties right now.

[Mithrals]

Postat inițial de wendigo211:

Postat inițial de Mithrals:

The sword saint is maybe (well see) the strongest archtype atm.
Not seeing that on the list makes me doubt. but most of the classes mentioned are not too shabby so its ok i guess.

I agree Sword Saint probably still is the strongest pure class.

Purifier with the pranked curse (grants mirror image), is also a pretty good choice for a melee divine caster. Although maybe not as good as the Crusader with Loremaster.

I'm finding Kinetic Knight pretty valuable in my current unfair run (multiclassed with Monk and Eldritch Scoundrel for some sneak attack, AC and arcane buffs), the energy blades target touch AC, and I can get a mythic feat to remove resistance to that element. Hopefully it works with mythic Shatter Defenses so I end up spamming flat footed touch attacks against my enemies (probably still some enemies on unfair I'll have a hard time hitting). The reason I suggested Knight over the other specs is that the blade works like a real weapon with them, I tried some of the other specs, but having to gather power before attacking messed up a lot of stuff (e.g. charge), and the blade is the best kinetic blast for raw single target DPS.

That said, any class that can perform high damage touch attacks and/or ignore dex AC is pretty valuable on the higher difficulties right now.

Gonna have to look into kinetic knight for sure, but tbh, all you need from sword saint is like you say the ability to hit touch ac, so 11 levels is great, no need to go pure.

[Lord_WC]

The incense alchemist is probably the best if you are doing a party (no one else really gives alchemical bonus, so it will stack with everything).

Kineticist not being SSS+++ just means that they didn't play this game and their attention span ends with about 2 feats.

[Foolswalkin]

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Postat inițial de NihilVerum:

Can't say they're wrong about alchemists. Force Bombs are insane, doubly so in an environment where everything is normally resistant to regular elemental damage.

I think Barbarians with Rage are best against boss fights though imo, crazy rage damage i think i saw me hit a 125 or so a couple times and that's each attack round not total and i'm only level 11 atm

Well, at least in PnP, Primalist Bloodragers are generally considered a straight improvement over Barbarians. The only thing keeping them from being *strictly* better than Barbarians is a small amount of hp per level (1 on average in PnP) and the fact that Primalist Bloodragers rage powers come *2 every four levels instead of *1 every 2 levels.

Also, I gotta say, with Domain Zealot kicking Domain powers up to Swift Speed, if you aren't seeing what's awesome about the Luck Domain I dunno if I can help.

[Ghost]

Incense Synthesizer is currently broken and needs fix

[Soul]

Kineticist is insanely OP, currently one shotting entire packs of mythic demons with composite cloud attacks on core difficulty.

[jsaving]

If you want a challenge, I would suggest not playing the kineticist. It works exactly as you say, if you know what you are doing then you can solo most encounters once you reach midgame (also true in Kingmaker).

[malkavius77]

Sword Saints still highest possible damage but if I see one more dex saint build I'm going to blow a gasket!

[Bastion]

Postat inițial de malkavius77:

Sword Saints still highest possible damage but if I see one more dex saint build I'm going to blow a gasket!

nah, you want huge damage its all about a oread metal soul rowdy rogue with the biggest 2 handed weapon they can get there hands on, cast lead blades and just watch the carnage when they wade in. combine it with power attack and cleave/cleaving finishing tree and its a masacre