Anyone else find power attack/piranna strike to not be worth it late game?

[Shadowmail]

Anyone else find power attack/piranna strike to not be worth it late game. The enemies has such high AC that it just seems not worth it to turn on.

[Kasa]

No, it's literally one of the biggest damage boosts you will get in the game short of sneak attacks, crits, and maximize spells.

[Shadowmail]

Yeah it's quite a huge damage boost, when you hit. However when you have +35 attack vs 50+ AC targets, that -4 is way too harsh.

[kiloromeo]

I will always prefer to hit better.
Then use some other Damage boost, like Holy or Flame or what not. I only use Power Attack, if Damage Reduction is too high and no other way to get through it.

[hermetic_magi]

Originally posted by Shadowmail:

Yeah it's quite a huge damage boost, when you hit. However when you have +35 attack vs 50+ AC targets, that -4 is way too harsh.

True seeing.

I'm not joking. Pop true seeing and a lot of those mega ACs crash and burn.

Also, always keep a Paladin handy with their level 11 smite ability.

Example:
My level 12 Paladin -
+12 BAB
+7 Str
+2 Sword
+1 Weapon Focus
+1 Background Bonus

+23 -4 power attack = +19

+4 from spells (Aid, Prayer, Haste)

+23

Tag on +2 from Light of Hope

+25

Add +2 from weapon bond

+27

Add +6 from Smite

+33

That 35 AC isn't so intimidating anymore.

[Shadowmail]

35 AC? I am level 15 fighting 50 AC guys, So you would hit on a 17, Nice. (I am not even on core, so their AC is debuffed. Either way it isn't an issue with my casters to tear them down, but I find my melee just being useless unless I remove power attack to actually hit something. True seeing though, good call. Didn't know it helped with blur and such.