(Potential Spoilers) How to beat the V******* Q****?

[churtanov]

I'm at Leper's Smile and I have made it to the Vescavor Queen. Problem is I can't find a way to beat it at all after trying 11 times. Any tips or ways to cheese the fight? I'm playing on the Core difficulty. The companions I currently have are Seelah, Nenio, Ember, Daeran, and Sosiel. (I'm playing a tank/damage dealer.)

[SnuffSaid]

If it's not too late to switch companions, Lann is the solution to pretty much any problem you might have. He is the embodiment of cheese and probably due a hard nerf.

[Rainnd]

Hasted Lann with sonic arrows demolished the Queen in 2 turns on Core.

[churtanov]

Originally posted by SnuffSaid:

If it's not too late to switch companions, Lann is the solution to pretty much any problem you might have. He is the embodiment of cheese and probably due a hard nerf.

I may have to do that but I wanted to grant him his wish of wanting to prove himself which doesn't let you take him . If there's no other way I guess I could just redo that choice and bring him along.

[Hobocop]

Killing swarms of bugs with fire tends to work well. Alchemist's Fire, Fireball if you have it prepped or a scroll or two handy. Ember definitely has access to Scorching Ray and Burning Arc.

[VidyaGamez]

You got me thinking there was a vagina quest, disappoint.

[Morgian]

Use delay poison (communal) and acid resistance (communal). And as someone else told me in another thread "slumber is the uber weapon" (not that I believe that), which is part of Ember's arsenal, if she has it. You should bring the 1st level spell that suppresses confusion, too (something with heart in the name), as your Will saves won't be too good.

[VidyaGamez]

Originally posted by Morgian:

Use delay poison (communal) and acid resistance (communal). And as someone else told me in another thread "slumber is the uber weapon" (not that I believe that), which is part of Ember's arsenal, if she has it. You should bring the 1st level spell that suppresses confusion, too (something with heart in the name), as your Will saves won't be too good.

The general idea is any round the enemy isn't trying to murder you is a huge bonus, which is why Ember witch spamming sleepytime hex by right clicking it is stronk.

[Draken]

In such tough fights protective luck on the tank can really turn the fight. Forcing the enemy to roll twice and take the worst result is really strong.
So start the fight with protective luck on the tank, try sleep, and if that doesn't work keep casting the protective luck every turn.

[Morgian]

@Vidyagamez: the problem is that all enemies that matter have a monstrous Will save and/or immunity to mindaffecting effects.

[YourLittlePogchamp]

I wouldn't really recommend having both Daeran and Sosiel on your team if you're having issues with damage right now. Two healers is a little overkill in that case.

You should also be buffing your party with the Communal Energy Resist spell -> pick Acid Resistance.

And like others said, you should be taking advantage of fortune/misfortune hexes(with cackle to prolong them) that Ember may have. Nenio also has pretty strong illusion spells she can spec into and give your party survivability through Greater Invisibility or Displacement

If you gave your spellcasters Mythic Elemental focuses, you should have them spamming elemental spells for huge damage too, since they'd be able to bypass immunities and resistances that way (as long as enemies don't have a reflex save)

edit:
By the way since others are recommending it. Ember's slumber spell doesn't work so well anymore as the devs seemed to have patched in a 24 hour one use per enemy timer on it.

[Draken]

@Morgian
Take a look at their status page and find the ♥♥♥♥♥ in their armor. Whether that is a low safe, touch ac or something else. There is usually something that they are weak against.

The slumber hex for example is really good against Minotaurs, Gargoyls, and Babaus. I even have decent chances against Vrocks. Of course it is useless against undead. And taking an enemy completely out of the fight for multiple rounds is really strong. At the start of a boss fight even a 1/20 chance to immediately stop the boss from doing anything can be far more useful than a scorching ray for some damage.
And yes, you can only use the slumber once per enemy, that is still very good.

Edit: Really the word that starts with a 'ch' and ends with an 'ink' is censored? Why?

[phadin]

Slumber hex and other mind effects are generally useless against Vermin as well. Most bugs like the swarms are immune to mind effects, similar to undead. I had Ember with me, but I never even tried to use her hexes much because of this.

And that hex has always been a once per 24 hours against any individual opponent. You can't keep hitting slumber on the same guy. (if you could before, that was a bug) Many hexes work like that. Evil Eye can be reused on the same person repeatedly, but both Slumber and Vulnerability only get one shot each per opponent.

[mreed2]

Originally posted by Codychan:

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edit:
By the way since others are recommending it. Ember's slumber spell doesn't work so well anymore as the devs seemed to have patched in a 24 hour one use per enemy timer on it.

The once per day per foe limit was in the release version.

Using Slumber to remove a key enemy requires some save scumming and playing in turn based mode. Otherwise, the odds are high that someone will auto-attack the sleeping foe, which isn't what you want at all (you want to use the Coup De Grace ability to kill them outright).

It was nerfed a bit in the patch, as some of the optional bosses are immune to it. And lots of bosses have high will saves, but rarely high enough to make success impossible.

[uwfsam2000]

What level were you when you did Lepers?

[GunofBrixton]

Originally posted by Konstantin:

I'm at Leper's Smile and I have made it to the Vescavor Queen. Problem is I can't find a way to beat it at all after trying 11 times. Any tips or ways to cheese the fight? I'm playing on the Core difficulty. The companions I currently have are Seelah, Nenio, Ember, Daeran, and Sosiel. (I'm playing a tank/damage dealer.)

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