Last Azlanti on Core difficulty

[henrywiddas]

I finished Pillars of Eternity Path of the Damned iron man run (took me about 300 hours and 30 playthroughs) so this should be ok right on core mode?

[Mork]

On a blind run?

[Averagedog]

I don't think it will be worth the time investment. You are going to lose characters left and right faster than the rate you can rez. It will require meta game knowledge on which fights to avoid if you realistically want to win without a reload.

[henrywiddas]

Originally posted by Mork:

On a blind run?

not a blind run, i've had a look at a couple of vids from Fextralife on the mechanics of the game and this from RPG Division which was excellent...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmh1akgW4zo&feature=em-comments

I'm also playing with all the tips off for combat and dialogue and only using real time combat. so far so good in the Maze at the start, and I should have said I am using the Magus class which has the highest difficulty accoding the character creation section. I have chosen subclass battle mage but for some reason when in the game in character screen it doesn't tell you what sub class you have, just the main class, Magus...anyway to check what subclass you are anywhere? I'm still earning the ropes so going to tread carefully as attacks of opportunity still a bit of a mystery to me....so let's say I'm going in half blind in terms of the mechanic and fully blind in terms of knowing what is around the corner. I'm also not using the map screen. i love playing games like this, make it brutal and the iron man mode adds to the immersion. i fully expect to die a few times and restart but that is part of the ecstasy of death haha

[henrywiddas]

Originally posted by Averagedog:

I don't think it will be worth the time investment. You are going to lose characters left and right faster than the rate you can rez. It will require meta game knowledge on which fights to avoid if you realistically want to win without a reload.

cheers for the advice, i am prepared to sink a few hundred hours into trying over a year or so, it's just how i roll with games these days, i can't get that immersion feeling without making it difficult for myself and iron man. i've been playing Days Gone on PS$ on Survival II mode with iron man for a good two years and never got past level 6. So i am depriving myself of game story in some ways but the tension and immersion make it worthwhile. I have chickened out on unfair mode and hard mode with this game so far though as the story is so great and i want to expereince it :)

[Mork]

I will eventually do a Last Azlanti run and most likely on Core but only when i think i know almost everything about the game.

If the main character die, it's game over, so a extremely hard to kill back line character is recommended. Someone that can run away if needed and who stay away from the most dangerous enemies.

In Last Azlanti, we kinda have to let the group do the heavy lifting while we make sure the main character prioritize safety.

[henrywiddas]

Originally posted by Mork:

I will eventually do a Last Azlanti run and most likely on Core but only when i think i know almost everything about the game.

If the main character die, it's game over, so a extremely hard to kill back line character is recommended. Someone that can run away if needed and who stay away from the most dangerous enemies.

In Last Azlanti, we kinda have to let the group do the heavy lifting while we make sure the main character prioritize safety.

Thanks for the advice :) i survived quite a lot in Wastleland 2 Supreme Jerk difficulty and PoE Path of the Damned by running away, it has served me well in real life too haha

How does death work in this game? I had my main character on -2 HP and she got up after the rest of my crew won the fight.

Can they keep losing hit points when prone as I read you only die when your negative hitpoints exceed your overall HP? So if I had 100 hit points would I need -100 to die?

I'm in the Maze by the way, going to start another thread on that if you guys are interested, i'm going to try and do a Unfair mode maze run....and do a running commentary on it with nightly episodes haha

[Wraith]

No atm.
There to much potential bug (especially at the last few chapters) that can stop you in your tracks.
It would be the worst feeling in the world to run into something like the falling under the floor bug (if it save at the wrong moment) or the decision bug (the game remembering your decision wrong after a reload)
Imagine spending so much time only for all the effort to hit a wall.

[Marcos_DS]

Originally posted by henrywiddas:

Thanks for the advice :) i survived quite a lot in Wastleland 2 Supreme Jerk difficulty and PoE Path of the Damned by running away, it has served me well in real life too haha

How does death work in this game? I had my main character on -2 HP and she got up after the rest of my crew won the fight.

As long as you don't drop below negative CON hitpoints, you will get back up (just knocked out). Later on (lvl 2 of mythic path), this will raise to 2x CON negative hitpoints. If you drop below that the character will die. Unfortunately thats game over for the main character, everyone else can be resurrected by spell later on (or by scroll, but thats expensive)

Can they keep losing hit points when prone as I read you only die when your negative hitpoints exceed your overall HP? So if I had 100 hit points would I need -100 to die?

You can loose more HP while down. Most enemies will focus on the other characters, but AOE spells, ground based effects, auras etc will still cause more damage. Also its really just CON or 2xCON (later), so you will have 10-20 negative hitpoints (or twice that later)

I'm in the Maze by the way, going to start another thread on that if you guys are interested, i'm going to try and do a Unfair mode maze run....and do a running commentary on it with nightly episodes haha

Would be interested to see that, i tried unfair but switched back to core...

Edit: Unless you played Kingmaker on unfair, you'll be in for quite the surprise i think^^ Pathfinder Unfair is definitely harder than Pillars PotD (imo)

[RazorChain]

You´ll die a lot. I am playing core and I finished Pillars I & II on path of the damned. You´ll end in a lot of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fights. Like for instance I´m trying to save some Hellknights at level 6. At the end of the fight with repeatable reswpawns of Gargoyles which you can´t Attack when they spawn so they´ll always get the first round (effing stupid)..yeah at the end of the fight there spawns a cleric gargoyle who is at level 13 and just insta levels drains you by 6 levels and your dead. Good luck bye. Restart

I´ve fought this fight couple of times now and it´s unwinnable. You have some allies that cant hurt the gargoyles and even though I max buff my party before the fight I can´t beat the last wave. Maybe I´m supposed to level up first...I dunno

[aramintai]

Uh, I'd avoid doing that atm. Too many bugs and only one save. Good chances are your game will bug out at some point and you won't be able to roll back.

[henrywiddas]

just posted this on my Student of Stone Maze run on Unfair thread if anyone wants to join the unfairness of it all in roleplay mode.

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[Serious Squirrel]

Blind(watching some videos is still blind) + Last Azlanti would just be needless self torture. Even the random encounters can easily 1 round your MC if the dice fall bad and he isnt built just right. I'm in the middle of my exploratory solo core run to get ready for last azlanti and so far elemental specialist/danse macabe/azata wiz has been the best overall but empyreal sorc might be the meta since they have a source of positive damage without multiclass. Strait bow fighter did well until after drez, elemental sorc has carried himself thru to midway of abyss so far with only 2 avoidable fights he couldnt win due to lack of positive energy damage.

[Morgian]

You will learn the true meaning of hardcore mode :)
In standard mode the balor in act 4 has AC 48 (don't even ask about spell resistance and saves), but you will die long before you get there. You can die to random encounters in this game, especially those near demon armies.

[Withmir]

Dude necro'd his own thread for attention christ

[Harem Route]

Blind or not, I think Last Azlanti is fine on Core, it's not THAT difficult. The real issue here is bugs. I would not recommend Last Azlanti until the game had at least a dozen patches. Or better yet, a year from now.