Playing as an evil character...

[Master Tang]

I am not far in at all, but usually in this kinds of RPGs there's always a lot of work put into the introduction and the game became less bare as the game goes along. But the story is so off if you're playing an evil character and the choices are simplistic at best... Tell me, does it get better or am I just better of rerolling a Paladin or whatever?

[Soul]

Funny im getting just as annoyed trying to do a lawful Aeon playthrough, i've done like 95% of my dialogue as lawful choices and I am still getting shafted by my aeon reflection for that 5% of neutral choices I made because i liked the dialogue better or didn't have a lawful choice.

[Isseus]

Unfortunately you can't be evil in Pathfinder campaigns. They're always made for good parties. That's why when they take those premade campaigns and make them available to all alignments, the evil is just tacked on. Neutral Evil is not an evil character, just selfish. Chaotic Neutral is a silly trickster. Chaotic Evil is a murderhobo.

If you're looking for nuanced evil or good writing overall, don't play a combat simulator like Pathfinder. Go for Planescape: Torment, Tyranny or Disco Elysium.

[KharnFlakes]

Guys is it possible in the game make Arueshalae alignment go evil, or she is Desna fangirl forever?

[[TGC] MadGod]

Yeah, basically they screw you with the organized evil thing as well. You want to play a follower of Asmodeus who -- by definition -- hates demons as much as any LG goody two-shoes (if not even more so)....tough luck.

PF was always geared towards the "maximum neutral" path, computer or not. Of course, a good GM could allow LE characters since they are merely frowned upon in most places. But a NE extremist Gozreh saviour of nature.....noooo bad player. :)

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Master Tang:

I am not far in at all, but usually in this kinds of RPGs there's always a lot of work put into the introduction and the game became less bare as the game goes along. But the story is so off if you're playing an evil character and the choices are simplistic at best... Tell me, does it get better or am I just better of rerolling a Paladin or whatever?

I'd say that overall evil characters gets less thought out decisions (with a few exceptions here and there). But there are some interesting evil choices and some interesting evil RP depending on your mythic path.

[Valky]

people who want nuanced option should also read text, it's not because it's taged [evil] that it should be your default choice, neutral/lawfull answer can be a good choice too, if you take Regil for instance he is lawfull evil, but some of his text flavor some lawfull good too, why don't you nuance your character too ? i play a lawfull neutral character and i some time take evil option because i think it's the best possible answer my char would give in that particular scenario or the good one and sometime just be neutral, i pissed of my aeon because of that but i don't give a F.

You can be an evil character without murdering everyone on sight, like at the beggining you are given the choice to attack Lann and Wendu, did you take that option ? yet you are not obligated to attack them, you can be neutral and talk to them, be evil when it matter, be good when it does, and be neutral the rest of the time.

Taking every evil option because you are evil is not actual role play, most player in p&p who play evil character do not act like douchbag, i agree that the answer for evil is mostly murder or go demon rage, but the game don't force you to pick them every time.

[The Hat]

You can do plenty of evil acts during your playthrough. Many of the [Evil]Lines are simplistic at best, a few you might want to take advantage of. Chaotic lends itself toward evil sometimes, as does lawful depending on the circumstance. That said there are a few standout evil dialogue choices you might end up taking.

*For example I am attempting to collect people in my jail, as many as possible, which is considered lawful. I would like to expand my trophy room but alas I cannot. I also just for example sent several people to X, when I was already doing X to them. Now they have a choice between X and X and both are horrible fates.

[✙205🍉🐆→]

You can't just take and do normal evil that does good for yourself.
the hardest part is being a centrist druid *for me

[Master Tang]

Originally posted by Valky:

You can be an evil character without murdering everyone on sight.

... Which was my entire point that you can not. The choices you are given and the dialog makes no sense for a neutral evil character. A neutral evil characters wouldn't even ask 95% of the dialog or in the way the game phrases it.

Your given the game too much credit, I assume you got almost no history with the pen and paper variant of Pathfinder or D&D. I'll just reroll, there's nothing for a evil character in this game.

[DrunkPunk]

Originally posted by Master Tang:

Originally posted by Valky:

You can be an evil character without murdering everyone on sight.

... Which was my entire point that you can not. The choices you are given and the dialog makes no sense for a neutral evil character. A neutral evil characters wouldn't even ask 95% of the dialog or in the way the game phrases it.

Your given the game too much credit, I assume you got almost no history with the pen and paper variant of Pathfinder or D&D. I'll just reroll, there's nothing for a evil character in this game.

the evil options to attack are always there, and i guess if you just mindlessly take that you'll miss out on the more nuanced options available. if you don't though, you'll find a lot of interesting evil opportunities. you aren't always tied to the alignment options presented and often times it seems you aren't really intended to take them. but the game provides you opportunities to fail without failure being a showstopper so it's kind of up to you to play it smart at the same time.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

My personal experiance:
I wasnt even trying and i became neutral evil(Started as neutral)
I was just being selfish.

Neutral evil is about getting power they can get away with.
The key difference between neutral evil and chaotic evil is that chaotic evil is bound by there impulses.
Neutral evil takes what it can get but knows when to back the censored down.

[urartu]

I wish there was an Evil option to kill or execute Lady Konomi. That would be the only Attack option I would take with utter prejudice.

[Ovan]

If you want to play evil characters i would recommend Tyranny.

It has its own problems of course, but at least the evil characters can have a logical reason to be evil, instead of 90% "i don't like you, so i'll just murder you".

[Soft Lockpick]

In this game the good, evil, lawful, chaotic, and neutral options all have the same low tier writing. You will not feel shafted as an evil character because of that... but you shouldn't go into this expecting to feel like you're a clever mastermind evil or a realistic kind of evil. The writing is very cartooney.

You are Skeletor, or Murderhobo, or whatever. It lacks depth.

[Diomedes]

Originally posted by Ovan:

If you want to play evil characters i would recommend Tyranny.

It has its own problems of course, but at least the evil characters can have a logical reason to be evil, instead of 90% "i don't like you, so i'll just murder you".

Honestly both Tyranny and Pillars of Eternity 1 and 2 handle morality way better for RP reasons than all the modern DnD games.. The alignment system only works well in a free form table top environment imo, not in a video game.