Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Kaynos 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 8:22
How are fighters ?
New to the game but from my experience of other RPG's seems like regular fighters always end up being really underwhelming in the end. How are fighters in this game ? I'd like to play a 2H fighter but i just want to be sure that i won't spend 20-30 hours playing it only to find out the class suck end game.
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Zack 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:40 
using a bow fighter (wenduag) shes consistently hitting for 200+ dmg every turn without crits at lvl 17 (normal difficulty) +35 attack with deadly aim in chapter 5 is no joke

That's what I meant by my fighter comment. Pure fighter is great.
Zack 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:41 
引用自 CHAO$$$
Fighters are mostly "meh" tier except for mutagen warrior.
Barbs are complete trash tier except for Instinctual
Paladin are mostly "meh" tier except for martyr

^the exceptions are quite playable tho

Except it depends on what you want to achieve. Not everyone wants to play Insane difficulty with completely unfair fights.
A normal pure fighter is more than enough to deal with anything, really.
Silamon 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:44 
引用自 Zack
using a bow fighter (wenduag) shes consistently hitting for 200+ dmg every turn without crits at lvl 17 (normal difficulty) +35 attack with deadly aim in chapter 5 is no joke

That's what I meant by my fighter comment. Pure fighter is great.
Just look at 2h fighter level 20 perk. 100% confirmed critical threats and increased damage multiplier is crazy. Even without that my 2h fighter in kingmaker one shotted multiple bosses with crits.
SunMadeOfIce 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:51 
引用自 Silamon
引用自 Zack

That's what I meant by my fighter comment. Pure fighter is great.
Just look at 2h fighter level 20 perk. 100% confirmed critical threats and increased damage multiplier is crazy. Even without that my 2h fighter in kingmaker one shotted multiple bosses with crits.
Bless weapon is a level 1 paladin spell and it makes you auto-confirm crits against evil, which just about every difficult enemy in this game is. You can also put it on allies weapons. lol. The only good part of the fighter feat at 20 is the crit multi going up by 1.
Silamon 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:54 
引用自 SunMadeOfIce
引用自 Silamon
Just look at 2h fighter level 20 perk. 100% confirmed critical threats and increased damage multiplier is crazy. Even without that my 2h fighter in kingmaker one shotted multiple bosses with crits.
Bless weapon is a level 1 paladin spell and it makes you auto-confirm crits against evil, which just about every difficult enemy in this game is. You can also put it on allies weapons. lol. The only good part of the fighter feat at 20 is the crit multi going up by 1.
Does the paladin also get tons of bonuses to damage and crit?

Can your paladin one shot bosses on a regular basis?
Look at that 20th level feat in combination with overhand chop, backswing, greater power attack, and devastating blow in mind.
最後修改者:Silamon; 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 9:58
Trip 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:11 
I've always liked the fighter class in 3.5e, and for one main reason...

I LOVE FEATS!!!

Fighter's get so many you can build them in different ways. Especially on normal and daring you can do fun stuff like a sword&board shield bashing disarming tripper.

Yeah, other classes get fancy shmany toys to play with but fighters get solid work done.
Silamon 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:15 
引用自 Trip
I've always liked the fighter class in 3.5e, and for one main reason...

I LOVE FEATS!!!

Fighter's get so many you can build them in different ways. Especially on normal and daring you can do fun stuff like a sword&board shield bashing disarming tripper.

Yeah, other classes get fancy shmany toys to play with but fighters get solid work done.
Greater Cleaving finish is great. It's probably my favorite feat :praisesun:
When you crit roll and one shot 3 or 4 targets in a single swing, feels good man.
RocketMan 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:16 
引用自 Zack
引用自 Mail me to the Moon
That...that seems rather weak no? Or is it just weaker for ranged?

I was hitting for around 80+ damage noncrit with my lvl 4 fighter/rowdy rogue. Granted, she did have that one glave that added another 1d6 per attack.

It's not weak when she one shots enemies. She's pure fighter. Of course a hybrid will go higher on paper, but that's the bread and butter of Pathfinder, imo. Seeing OP was asking about only Fighter, I gave a pure Fighter answer.

And if you are only lv4 and doing 80 damage, I just don't believe you. Like, I don't say this in a mean, but it's just not possible.
It's usually around 50 damage. I forgot to take a screenshot but I was surprised as well. It was 83 after Dr so more around 90+ so I rolled high for damage.

level 3 rowdy rogue, level 1 crusader cleric. ~also sorry, she was a cleric not a fighter
9-18 base attack + 1d6 negative + 6d6 sneak attack + 1d10 vital strike +3 2h power attack. +1 destruction domain Total of 22-74. + the damage bonus from enlarge which I don't know the exact numbers on.
最後修改者:RocketMan; 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:27
Immortal Reaver 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:25 
引用自 Trip
I've always liked the fighter class in 3.5e, and for one main reason...

I LOVE FEATS!!!

Fighter's get so many you can build them in different ways. Especially on normal and daring you can do fun stuff like a sword&board shield bashing disarming tripper.
Best thing about UMD Fighter? Scribing Scrolls and Brewing Potions is in Wrath so you can buff Fighter with things like Angelic Aspect, Eaglesoul and Mirror Image and create absolute beast.
Kasa 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:36 
Fighters are one of the best classes in the game (fight me!) simply because it's hard to build a "bad" fighter.

Even at it's most basic just by taking things that look like they would be useful on a fighter you will have built yourself a decent combat machine.
Other classes may have tricks to get better damage or better armor or saves but a fighter will do well in just about any situation with the basics.
Midnight 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:45 
Well, I wanted to write about advantages of the fighter class but realized that I can't come up with a reason to chose figher over Slayer.

Slayer is just an upgrade in every way.

Fighter is good as a dip though. Especially mutation warrior is a great choice.
最後修改者:Midnight; 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:46
jofu 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:47 
引用自 Kaynos
New to the game but from my experience of other RPG's seems like regular fighters always end up being really underwhelming in the end.
My experience tells me otherwise - fighter is the most stable class throughout the game, the rest are just helpful entourage.
Not sure about this one, but I've finished the previous game as a 2H warrior without any disappointment.
The Silver Santana 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:50 
In general fighters are great for dipping a few levels for most builds. Typically, you want a much better class as your "real" class, but fighters get a good batch of feats which are generally applicable. If your build does not have room for ranger or monk feats, or those classes don't interest you, or you've already dipped them, Fighter is a good choice.

Pathfinder, however, strongly encourages multiclassing, so a straight class is typically worse than a multiclass. There are several reasons, and to summerize-classes are frontloaded, and saves are frontloaded.

It's well known that pathfinder is broken entirely when it comes to saves, and the easiest way to build up insane class bonuses to saving throws is to have a dozen classes which all give their starting +2 bonus to a save. In practice, you usually want a few more levels-but multiclassing almost always ends up a positive to your saves. You can see this with a paladin/monk-at level 2, a straight paladin has +3/+0/+3, while a paladin 1/monk 1 has +4/+2/+4. It takes 6 levels in paladin to surpass where you were with one level in paladin/monk.

(Monk is a particularly good example, but it's generally true as well).

The other thing is that many, many martial classes have level 1/2 abilities that help you deal damage, tank damage, and access feats, and very few require heavy investment in the class to be usable. Fighter is a great example-in four levels you get three feats. Monk is even better-in two levels you get three feats, sometimes four-it's just that the feats are more limited.

Hence, optimization forums will tell you to dip fighter/monk a lot. Often the main class will be something else entirely, if calling something a "main class" makes any sense at all.
Kasa 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 10:57 
引用自 Midnight
Well, I wanted to write about advantages of the fighter class but realized that I can't come up with a reason to chose figher over Slayer.

Slayer is just an upgrade in every way.

Fighter is good as a dip though. Especially mutation warrior is a great choice.

Weapon mastery means end game level the fighter outdamages the slayer, but then again that's only at end game levels.
EasternTime 2021 年 9 月 8 日 上午 11:03 
引用自 Kaynos
New to the game but from my experience of other RPG's seems like regular fighters always end up being really underwhelming in the end. How are fighters in this game ? I'd like to play a 2H fighter but i just want to be sure that i won't spend 20-30 hours playing it only to find out the class suck end game.
Fighter as a class is a bit boring, but effective. In six character party you have enough micromanagment already, so having somebody to just smash enemy every turn is nice.
Fighters as a "melee damage-oriented martial class" group are almost mandatory for success on higher difficulties. You need casters to buff your guys and debuff enemies, then your martial guys finish the fight, They are main source of damage, they kill both chaff and bosses. Archers are great too, but they often suffer from damage reduction and visibility problems. Casters are more like a scalpel.
Note. Hybrids are great if you have only 3-4 characters in a party, but 6 character party size favors specialists. You need at least one full caster and one damaging martial class in party all the time. Also amount of fights in this game requires you to have healing. A lot if it, preferably. Oracle you meet in first chapter is a great choice.
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