I don't think any mainstream RPG video game has ever had this many Classes or ways to build your character

[Viper]

Can you name any....

[Echo]

Originally posted by Alm:

Originally posted by Echo:

Yeah I roll "fighting man" in pretty much every one of these games. I got a horse this time though.

Trident dual-wielding Order of the Pike knight with pounce. Because you can.

The greatest foes refuse to hide.

- Actually I'm not sure what that even means.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by Sinderlok:

Baldurs Gate 1,2 and possibly 3 in the future. Neverwinter Nights. Divinity series. Pathfinder kingmaker. And some other CRPG based on tabletop.

BG 1 / 2 didn't have this many options, not by a long shot. And I have spent more than a thousand hours just playing those games, not counting the many hours I've spent modding for them. 2nd edition D&D basically just had classes and a few kits and that was all the customization you could have. And they didn't have feats or anything like that. Your character building ended at level 1.

NWN1 was D&D 3.0 and although it was a radical expansion compared to 2nd edition, NWN1 wasn't particularly complex. NWN2 was D&D 3.5 but it didn't include almost any of the splatbooks (Kaedrin's pack mod added a large amount later).

Kingmaker is the most expansive and in depth character creation and customization for this genre of games of all time so far (especially with the Call Of The Wild mod). And honestly it also beats out literally every other game in history since even games like Oblivion and Skyrim are... simple... by comparison in terms of mechanics.

Wrath has launched with more options than Kingmaker did at its launch, but currently doesn't have quite as many options just because Call Of The Wild is already out for Kingmaker.

[Cirayu]

Originally posted by Keepenater:

Originally posted by Viper:

Can you name any....

Neverwinter Nights Enhanced has even more race and class options as wells as a couple dozen more feats if you get it and the PRC mod on the workshop.

I really need to play that properly, I want to be a purple dragon knight :p

[unio]

Originally posted by Sinderlok:

Baldurs Gate 1,2 and possibly 3 in the future. Neverwinter Nights. Divinity series. Pathfinder kingmaker. And some other CRPG based on tabletop.

Haha, no. No. No.

[Naked Granny]

Originally posted by Sinderlok:

Baldurs Gate 1,2 and possibly 3 in the future. Neverwinter Nights. Divinity series. Pathfinder kingmaker. And some other CRPG based on tabletop.

BG3 is D&D 5e...

It's got the option to put some random word on your character sheet, and that's your "class". And that's ... that's about it. All the "classes" play the same. It's not a system about mechanical depth. It's just chess with goblins and elves.

[CDI Mario]

Originally posted by Sinderlok:

Baldurs Gate 1,2 and possibly 3 in the future. Neverwinter Nights. Divinity series. Pathfinder kingmaker. And some other CRPG based on tabletop.

baulders gate 3 will have the core classes of dnd. Pathfinder WotR has more Prestige classes than Baulders gate 3 will have normal classes

[Amigo]

So what? Most classes are copy pasted regarding abilities and spells. There are only a few classes with visually and mechanically unique gameplay. Kinetecist is one of those.

There is a bunch of basic staple classes like wizard which do not have parent classes. The rest like bloodrager for example have one or two parent classes (barbarian and sorcerer for bloodrager).

They didn't implement truly unique classes like gunslinger, summoner or mesmerist. That is too much work.

[CDI Mario]

Originally posted by Amigo:

So what? Most classes are copy pasted regarding abilities and spells. There are only a few classes with visually and mechanically unique gameplay. Kinetecist is one of those.

True but arnt almost all classes in rpgs like that? DnD Ranger is just a fighter but worse in every way. Warlock is just a sorcerer but worse in almost every way. Paladin is just a Cleric but more martial.

[Amigo]

Even such basic and simple class as cavalier is half a..sed in this game. This game does not have pikes. And cavalier banner? You do not actually see it. Well you do see it, it's a tiny symbol in the corner of a character portrait.

[knightaries]

Originally posted by mutenroshie:

Who needs 120 classes, best build is and always was a flashy stabby gnom.

No, no, no..
Sneak, flashy, stabby kobold. 😁

[Trip]

NWN Undrentide and Underdark with its high level cap and prestige classes let you make a large number impressive and diverse builds.

That's probably the closest to pathfinder.

However, Deekin alone is better then all the NPCs in Pathfinder added together and multiplied by 3 so, Undrentide/Underdark gets the win by default.

P.S. It also had, I was informed, the best romanceable male of all time. Dunno if that part is true though.

[Draken]

If we don't count an arbitrary: "class" as the only way to look at very different ways to build a character, you can also count games like Diablo, Titan quest or my favorite Grim Dawn.
In Grim Dawn for example you get to choose two classes to form a hybrid one (or you can skip the second selection) then get to select which skills to put points in and a whole separated devotion system.
You can basically make a distinct working build for every single skill that the game has. And the game has a lot. Even builds around specific items are possible.

[Guevara-chan]

>Can you name any....

Actually - yes, it's a nobrainer: Siralim Ultimate.
Except it suffers from exactly same problem as WotR - too much options, too few subtle difference between them.

Some more mainstream example ? Pokemon. Exactly same problem at current gen.

[puppet74]

neverwinter knights 2 with hordes of the underdark expansion.
pillars 2 had a lots of choices as well

[Echo]

What about how much play testing these rulesets have had and how refined they are?

Maybe you can't really compare other game systems to Pathfinder if they haven't had a decade of play testing and aren't based on a long history of iteration without any massive overhauls. Well unless they're superbly designed...