Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Enhanced Edition

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Arisu Sep 7, 2021 @ 2:47pm
Overwhelming Soul's Mental Prowess ability
I can't figure out how to get this ability to work.

"She can’t choose to accept burn, though she can use wild talents with a burn cost if she can reduce that cost to 0 points with abilities such as gather power and infusion specialization."

I expected this ability to allow Gather Power to work on wild talents like Kinetic Healer. But none of the Gather Power abilities seem to have any effect on the burn cost. I can't find anything in the infusion list that might help with this either.
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brisbanehomoeopath Sep 11, 2021 @ 11:03pm 
I'm having this exact same issue and have no idea how to fix it.
Decius Brutus Sep 17, 2021 @ 10:38pm 
Gather power works only on kinetic blasts and infusions related to kinetic blast. Wild talents like Kinetic Healer that require accepting burn to use are basically useless to OS.

They should be able to use talents with a burn cost of 1 once total per day at 6th level and one additional time for every four additional levels, but that ability doesn't seem like it's in the beta yet.
Frostfeather (Banned) Sep 17, 2021 @ 10:41pm 
The archetype is kind of a mess atm. Overwhelming Power doesn't increase as you level up and Gather Power (Move Action) takes a whole turn.
Arisu Sep 18, 2021 @ 4:41am 
Originally posted by decius.brutus:
Gather power works only on kinetic blasts and infusions related to kinetic blast. Wild talents like Kinetic Healer that require accepting burn to use are basically useless to OS.

They should be able to use talents with a burn cost of 1 once total per day at 6th level and one additional time for every four additional levels, but that ability doesn't seem like it's in the beta yet.

That's for normal kineticists yes, but the Overwhelming soul has an ability that specifically says "she can use wild talents with a burn cost if she can reduce that cost to 0 points with abilities such as gather power". Which I thought is the gimick of this sub class. Otherwise what's the point of this sub class? She has no other benefits.
Decius Brutus Sep 18, 2021 @ 9:44am 
Originally posted by night4:
The archetype is kind of a mess atm. Overwhelming Power doesn't increase as you level up and Gather Power (Move Action) takes a whole turn.
Huh. I'm using Gather Power (move action) as a move action just fine, but if you also have to move to get into range that takes your standard action.

Originally posted by Arisu:
Originally posted by decius.brutus:
Gather power works only on kinetic blasts and infusions related to kinetic blast. Wild talents like Kinetic Healer that require accepting burn to use are basically useless to OS.

They should be able to use talents with a burn cost of 1 once total per day at 6th level and one additional time for every four additional levels, but that ability doesn't seem like it's in the beta yet.

That's for normal kineticists yes, but the Overwhelming soul has an ability that specifically says "she can use wild talents with a burn cost if she can reduce that cost to 0 points with abilities such as gather power". Which I thought is the gimick of this sub class. Otherwise what's the point of this sub class? She has no other benefits.
You can reduce the cost of forms and infusions of a kinetic blast with gather power.
Frostfeather (Banned) Sep 18, 2021 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by decius.brutus:
Huh. I'm using Gather Power (move action) as a move action just fine, but if you also have to move to get into range that takes your standard action.

It might just be turn based. Move action Bard/Skald songs do the same thing, they use your whole turn (unless they just fixed it yesterday, I couldn't test the songs anymore because they're Swift actions for me now at higher level).
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Date Posted: Sep 7, 2021 @ 2:47pm
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