Ashberry is death

[Radashar]

Wander in with my level 7/8 party expecting to handle things with a primalist bloodrager frontline tank, paladin, cleric, eldritch archer/etc. Kill some ghosts easily and then turn the corner into an Ancient Ghost with 16 levels of cleric.

It feels like playing Uno for the first time and someone dumps enough to draw 40 on you. Total obliteration, no chance at all, eating 9th level spells out of nowhere. Oneshot the 86hp barbarian with Destruction for 160damage with a failed save.

Only one still standing for more than two rounds is the Paladin.

Looks like a "I'll just reload that save and nope the hell out of here for later!" moment lol.

[Radashar]

Hahahahaha..... I tried a second time just for laughs.

Managed to keep scroll savant out of range and just unloaded every spell I could while everyone else died.

I got hit to about 30% and the ghost cast blade barrier on Lann and knocked him back, then moved forward to continue destroying him.... and floated into the blade barrier and murdered itself.

So aside from half my party being dead and having -8 levels and tons of -stats.... Yay i won?

[Marcos_DS]

Originally posted by Radashar:

Looks like a "I'll just reload that save and nope the hell out of here for later!" moment lol.

Also got there first time before conquering Drezden, was thinking "ok ghosts like in the lost hope library, guess i'll have to rest a while to loose negative levels". Buffed up, and went to town -< quick, painfull total party kill.

Second try fully buffed up, summons, all the bells and whistles. Killed all support ghosts, but the Ancienc Ghost still showed me whats what pretty quickly... Guess i'll be back later^^

[iw2b]

Took me a bit, but propely buffed Lann can pretty much solo him while others distract/tank.

[Marcos_DS]

Originally posted by iw2b:

Took me a bit, but propely buffed Lann can pretty much solo him while others distract/tank.

Any fight can be won kiting.

[Gio]

Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

Originally posted by Radashar:

Looks like a "I'll just reload that save and nope the hell out of here for later!" moment lol.

Also got there first time before conquering Drezden, was thinking "ok ghosts like in the lost hope library, guess i'll have to rest a while to loose negative levels". Buffed up, and went to town -< quick, painfull total party kill.

Second try fully buffed up, summons, all the bells and whistles. Killed all support ghosts, but the Ancienc Ghost still showed me whats what pretty quickly... Guess i'll be back later^^

may i ask where is this place? i have cleared the map and i just killed the torturer, i see no ashberry ruins in my map

[Marcos_DS]

Originally posted by sugmballz:

Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

Also got there first time before conquering Drezden, was thinking "ok ghosts like in the lost hope library, guess i'll have to rest a while to loose negative levels". Buffed up, and went to town -< quick, painfull total party kill.

Second try fully buffed up, summons, all the bells and whistles. Killed all support ghosts, but the Ancienc Ghost still showed me whats what pretty quickly... Guess i'll be back later^^

may i ask where is this place? i have cleared the map and i just killed the torturer, i see no ashberry ruins in my map

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[solthusx]

Its an even greater shock for those of us who played the Beta as there the old ghost just stood there doing nothing until you killed him. Free XP basically. I was wondering why he gave so much XP, now I know. Zacharius in the Lost Chapel is easy compared to this guy.

[Zaris]

Originally posted by Radashar:

I got hit to about 30% and the ghost cast blade barrier on Lann and knocked him back, then moved forward to continue destroying him.... and floated into the blade barrier and murdered itself.

Exact same thing happened to me, was a good laugh, 4/6 knocked out and then he killed himself by his own spell, getting pathfindered himself this time.

Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

Originally posted by iw2b:

Took me a bit, but propely buffed Lann can pretty much solo him while others distract/tank.

Any fight can be won kiting.

Kiting this fight shouldn't be possible because he casts 160 dmg hellfire (?) on your group members from a high range and has over 35 AC. At this point in the game with around +14 attack you can't even hit him without a crit and he can oneshot everyone because you have at best 100 hp on tanks.

[Radashar]

It's to the east of Drezen. Go East to the dot to the right of your camp/chapel, then north across the river and you should see it.

[Draken]

Ah, the level 18 cleric ghost.
Yeah.
I tried it a few times, then I thought I'm coming back later. I could probably do it if I throw everything at it, but it just isn't really worth it.

[Jordanlok]

its really ez for my run , go left up to the left side of the house , use 1 dude ur tank to take all the negative dmg from 2 green ghost , kill 2 green ghost in time , get back to blue ghost and spam everything on it , i spam close to heaven and searing light after that i spam negative energy channel on it until it die since u dont do much atking it with weapons , it die at turn 22 (welp is not ez , i savescum this ♥♥♥♥ 10 times, and didnt know if i was lucky blue ghost doesnt really care or if I kill green ghost too fast that it cant react , i see it cast spells tho but not on me but on itself for no reason , maybe is bugged out)

[THE AVERAGE]

I really don't know how you're even supposed to do this fight on anything above Normal at the level range you encounter it. Also, without having some kind of sacrificial pet, have fun losing one of your party members for most of the fight right at the very start.

For me it bugged out though when I finally managed to kill both of his wonder twin helpers. I walked around the houses after killing both of those and the Ancient Ghost was gone, and never reappeared.

[solthusx]

You're not supposed to do this fight as soon as you have access to it. You can win it on Normal or below, but even then its still very hard since you'll at best be level 9 by then assuming you go there just before attacking Drezen.

[macadami]

I just spammed animate dead to keep them busy and tank since they are immune to negative levels, fireball from nenio, holy smite from Darren, and lann plucking away at the boss guy till adds were down. Then I switched to turn based for action economy. I still think I lost 2 people but it only took a handful of tries on core. Was pretty shocking difference from beta though that’s for sure.

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by Marcos_DS:

Originally posted by iw2b:

Took me a bit, but propely buffed Lann can pretty much solo him while others distract/tank.

Any fight can be won kiting.

This is very very very wrong.
The Gargoyles defense when meeting Regill immediately comes to mind and they dont even have a ton of casters. Drezen prison same thing.

Like most things in this game every strong strategy has situations where it doesnt work. Just like facetanking with uberbuffed monks doesnt always work. Reading these forums most people just arent willing to adapt at all even considering the crazy number of op tools the game gives you.